Just for the record as you all know I now race with the MGOC Lancaster Insurance Championship , through the BARC 60 minutes track time £360.00 I would love one day too get back to Clubmans but at £500.00 for the same track time on some of the same circuits lncluding Donington Park I would seriously start having to ask questions As to if Clubmans are being totally ripped off

Steve I don't think there is an argument over 2016. The Championship Regulations approved by MSA are clear, 18 rounds with 13,14 and 15 at Donington and otherwise GR D.11.1.3 applies and all registered competitors have to consent to the amendment as well as MSA. It couldn't be more clear than that as that is what we signed up to when we registered for the Championship, 18 rounds not 17.

So it is a question of who is getting priority over us at DP if they want to 'bump' us.

Guys... why does a simple message from Pete end up with a discusion about where, what, how much etc??
i remember we all have voted where to race etc and yes my favourite circuit was Donington. The reason i won't come is just the change to a one day event, not the costs, not the club.
For me it's simply the distance (600 mls)+ ferry + hotel that make the costs, not just the entry fee.
When do you finaly realise you have so much circuits to choose from in one country and great tracks as well.. A championship in Holland would mean 6 events with choose of 2 tracks..
Didn't we choose the tracks, club etc at the drivers meeting/board? Now then. get back to your garage and prepare your car! No reason not to be ready, there's one extra day to work on it....

Well said Onno.

I'm just off to Le Mans - another bloody one day meeting! Well 24 hours anyway :-)

Damn Pete, we all know Le Mans starts at SATURDAY and finishes on SUNDAY!!! That's what we want...
Why being so bloody rude to us??

Onno, I think it is a discussion that needs to be had in relation to 2017.

No one suggesting changing anything for 2016 however we as a club are owed an explanation as to why we have had one of our weekends changed?????

With respect to 2017 it is clear that there are other clubs out there who may be able to offer better deals. I raced in OSS last year and compared to this season their grids were poor, however someone has clearly managed to negotiate a good deal as detailed by Jamie for 2016. They are now pulling in high 20's in terms of numbers and i'm sure good value track time is a contributing factor. Why can't we have that deal?

At the end of the day, we are the customer and we can negotiate and make a choice which will hopefully result in the best deal for the competitors for 2017.

Stop being the good citizen Onno the fact remains that members voted on 18 races not seventeen Acers commit to BARC they should honor that commitment

Jonty i agree with you and Jamie on that part! Just think this has no direct relation on the message from Pete.
I think it would be better to start a new topic where anyone could bring his/her upinion on what, where and on what costs for 2017
The thing is; i'm a reasonable outstander as not getting al the ins and outs due to the distance.

I do know entry fee for a Zandvoort raceday with 1 quali (20 min) and 3 races (12 laps/20 min) = +/- 250 euro (200 GBP) at a similar organisation as 750mc. (membership 80 euro)

For me a weekend UK wil cost me around 1500 euro, Croft a bit more, Brands a bit less.

My understanding is that the meeting was originally scheduled to be 2 days. Subsequently it has been reduced to a 1 day meeting and hence the BARC were unable to provide us with the 1 practice session and 3 races, with 2 races being the best alternative. I also believe the entry fee will be reduced to reflect this change.

I am also disappointed with this years calendar, as now having got the car out the season is half over. With us not racing during the best months of the year. I will endeavour to ensure this doesn't happen next season