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Re: napoleonic questions from a beginner

Hi Tom

All levels of knowledge welcome on this forum. Hussars of most countries in the Napoleonic Wars seem to have changed from the busby to the shako, but this was dependent on the regiment as some never wore shakos, so the Italeri set is fine as far as I know. British and Prussian hussars also wore shakos sometimes, but no one has done them yet.

As for grenadiers, I agree it is confusing. I always get confused between French grenadiers and French Imperial Guard. Doubtless someone here has the knowledge to make this clearer.

Re: Re: napoleonic questions from a beginner

Not that complicated actually- as for hussars, they originally started out with a "mirliton"- a sort of conical fabric cap. This evolved into the shako for most, but in emulation of infantry elite units some went for the busby, which is basically a cavalry variant of the bearskin.
The French had them for the elite companies in each regiment (also in the Chasseurs a Cheval) and for their Guard chasseurs, the British just handed them out to whole regiments at the end.
As for Grenadiers, originally the elite companies of regular line regiments were grenadiers, for which the fashion became bearskin caps.
Guard units were often called grenadiers (all elites, after all) and so wore bearskins too. Due to economic concerns, the French at least stopped issuing bearskins to line grenadiers, though many regiments managed through informal means to keep them for their grenadier companies.
In practice, this means that there is no significant difference between a line grenadier and a guard grenadier in their uniform, and certainly not at 1/72 scale. The figures are interchangeable.
Hope that helps!

Re: Re: Re: napoleonic questions from a beginner

so a set by zvezda named imperial guard can be just grenadiers,because thats what i was leaning to.

busbee is correct term for headgear and at some point french hussars wore them.

thanks for reply


Re: Re: Re: Re: napoleonic questions from a beginner

Until about 1809 Guard and Line Grenadiers wore the same Bearskin cap. Thereafter, only the Guard wore bearskins. To complicate matters, bearskins were only worn by the Old Guard Grenadiers (with front plate and red back patch) and Chasseurs (no plate or patch) The Middle and Young Guard wore shakos.

Other distinctions were that the Guard had blue collars, red turnbacks and red cuffs with no piping and a white button background. Line Grenadiers had red collars with white piping, white turnbacks, red cuffs with white piping, blue button background with red piping.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: napoleonic questions from a beginner

oh this helps a good deal and thank you.before 1809 from a plastic soldier point of view poses with bearskins could be both line and guarg.after bearskins only for guard.
thank you