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cavalry figures

i was able to get a couple of boxes of strelets crusader cavalry and was very impressed by the figures, not only are they nice figures but they fit the horses snug.

ive noticed that strelets has gone from cavalry figures with legs straight out and dont fit the horses to this, while italeri has gone the opposite direction to legs straight out.

i was wondering which would be more accutate in riding a horse and swinging a sabre, legs straight out and braced or hugging the horse with your legs.

if riders withn legs out that dont stay on the horses are accurate i would take inaccurate here.

tom

Re: cavalry figures

before stirrups, riders had to brace themselves against the horse's flanks as the fought. once stirrups came to being, they afforded a rider the leverage he needed so it wasn't necessary to hug the horse so closely.

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When galloping on a horse thou need to virtually stand up in teh stirrups.leaning forward over its head.This helops distribute your weigth and not restrict the horses motion. Depends also on riding style whether you have western or european saddle also.

Re: Re: Re: cavalry figures, Motorcycles & Horse Sense, Too

It's sort of like riding a Moto-Cross or Flat-Track motorcycle. You use the foot pegs like stirrups, to push down, lean forward, etc to control your body english. In my experience, it all depends on the what the horse or bike is doing and your legs and arms will respond instinctively to maintain or regain control. Sometimes you hug the bike with your legs yet other times you'll bow out your knees to be able to throw the thing around under you.

When you've lost control of your motorcycle and are flying high but with hands still on the grips, we call it "The Flying W!" But its more of a wishbone ... :-0

Bikes are easier I think. The problem with horses are they have their own mind, and when they are hungry and heading for food, you may find yourself along for the ride but not in control. I discovered the benefit of the western style saddle horn one evening when my horse bolted as I was in mid mounting with only left foot in stirrup. Durned thing galloped all the way home knowing it was dinner time. Had to empty my boots after that surprise!

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so in actuallity what the correct figures would be is the ones that dont sit on the horses and fall off?

tom

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All depends on the posture of horse you choose to the figure.Horse Standing (no matter) trotting cantering galloping(stand high in the stirrups) running.Dont forget when a horse takes a pee ,you should be standing in the stirrups.Good rider and horse work as one.

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fair enough,so say for example the italeri british light cavalry set with the poses of horses.having all figures with legs straight outwould be considered accurate?

tom

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That's hilarious, Hank. And lets not forget that an experienced rider should give the horse a good shake at the end, too!

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A few other things to remember:

- There were differing "fashions" of riding; the Prussians, for example, tended to ride with longer stirrups than other nations, thus would have stretched legs.
- When charging, you're supposed to come up out of the saddle, just like when galloping normally, or jumping for that matter.
- On the other hand, when a horse bolts I for one was taught to sit back in the saddle rather than lift myself up.
- Then again, especially later in the Nappy wars, many cavalrymen were in fact lousy riders, so might just do inappropriate things.
- And yes, horses are very annoying around dinner time!

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Thank you, Duco, for your facts.

Hank and I sound like Jokers but we're not in this case. Not totally, in any case ... :-)

The releif thing is of course in humour, but horses, riders, European Saddles, Western Saddles, and of course a riders individual riding style should factor into the situation ... both Professional or Amateure.

I'm with your opinion, in the end! Cheers, Mate!

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No worries Dave- believe me, when riding horses you need a sense of humour too!

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Dave Its no joke.Oh btw dont try that manoeuvre on a motorcyclette.people in TExas high street may not like you doing that.