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i absolutely agree with you concerning germans in roman army service. with roman equipment and helmets on (suggesting that the roman army was really that uniform) there would perhaps be no difference between
the batavians and other auxillary troops. on the other hand when you see the tombstones on the graveyard oft the equites singularii in rom one can imagine that they were very proud of their heritage.
(insciptions say : "from batavian nation" or "from ubii nation" never from german)
perhaps that heritage lived in som sort of special colour in their clothing or the painting on their shields, so sadly we will never know for sure...
concerning the suebi hairknot i didnt made it clear in my last post. i didnt wanted it for the batavians but when you look at all the early germanic pre migration period sets that came out over the last years most of them have no specific germanic features.
(strelets new germanic cavalry even uses a cover picture from the hadrians column on which the germans have the hairknot)
The inscriptions talk about the tribe rather than the nation because there was no German nation. Today we are used to calling ourselves by the nation we live in - in those days your identity was your tribe or grouping, so while the Batavians were Germanic it was Batavi that defined them.
To be fair you could consider these figures as representing the batavian mercenarys who fought under their chieftain Chariovalda in the army of Germanicus, as such though I would consider them as an extension of the previous germanic Cavalry set....from the time of Augustus however the batavians would have formed Auxliary Alae within the roman army, and as such would have been equipted accordingly... later only the names would exist so the batavian units stationed at vindolanda probably had other nationality or tribesmen in there ranks...
"To be fair you could consider these figures as representing the batavian mercenarys who fought under their chieftain Chariovalda in the army of Germanicus, as such though I would consider them as an extension of the previous germanic Cavalry set....from the time of Augustus however..."
Well, I think you are quite mistaken here. The campaign of Germanicus took place in 16AD, that is AFTER Augustus' death in 14AD. The emperor at the time was Tiberius. Chieftain Chariovalda, in my opinion, was nothing else but the first commander of the ala Batavorum.
In Dubio, I dont see that this is a problem..I wasent suggesting that all germanic Auxilia were not equipt by the romans only that some 'may' not have been...
This is certainly the view of malcolm Todd in "the northern barbarians" Pg33