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What is a Barbarian?

Thank you Strelets for your wishes. Everbody told me that everything will change when you are a father. Well, I still have 2 hours left every day for the hobby

Regarding Barbarians - what is a Barbarian? A Germanic warrior, an Estonian in the 12th century, European forces against the Boxers? Depends on the point of view.

In case you need plates of a specific warrior-class please let me know and I will send you the scans. There are a lot of differences in the "tribes".

And BTW, I am hoping for 2008 when there is money left after buying your new stuff!!!

cheers
uwe

Re: What is a Barbarian?

Oh, good, Mr. Wild has some scans of good germanic warriors.
I, of course, meant that I wanted my germanic cavalry to look irregular with an assortment of arms, armour, etc. Also, since my wife is an anthropologist, I enjoy using words like "barbarian" and "savage", just because it annoys her.
Congrats on the baby! But how in the world do you manage 2 hours a day for hobbies? I haven't had 2 hours a day for the last two and a half years (i.e., since mine was born)?
Enjoy

Re: Re: What is a Barbarian?

Hi Kvenful,

my boy is such a sunshine that he sleeps the whole day which gives me enough time in my holidays

But I can assure you, the nights are terrible but I can imagine you know this.

For what period do you want to use your Germanic savages? A spear was the most used weapon. What I can't understand are all the plastic and metal figures showing my grand-grand-fathers naked. The sculptors should come and see the weather in Germany...

cheers
uwe

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I'm thinking 1st BC to maybe as late as 2nd AD. Yeah, spears and javelins, of course. A couple of swords, probably of celtic or roman manufacture, but no more than that! Mostly, I'm tired of naked savages and fur-clad cavemen; the first was probably reasonably common in the foot, the second is just ludicrous. The Romans do mention naked germans and fur-clad germans, but, from what little I know of dress, they may have been referring to fur-lined capes! Armour would have been pretty rare; chieftains only sort of thing, with "knights" wearing an occasional helmet and most sticking to just a shield. Suevian knots and probably other, less well known hair styles would be nice. But Strelets has made a speciality of many poses- that's the most important thing to me!

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Uwe,
Many congratulations to you and your wife on the arrival of the "little modeller".
Having been soaked and frozen on many's a military exercise in Germany, I appreciate your sentiments about your ancestors' dress!
Ian

Naked, I say!

Hi, Uwe,
I'm not sure I should comment on your naked great-great etc grandfathers but I could tell you stories about my Auntie Maggie, a notorious naturist.
As for naked German warriors, why not?
The Celts would strip off to show their contempt for the enemy.
And as for being oblivious to the cold, Tierra del Feugans & Tasmanian aborigines both would brave Antarctic conditions clad in little or nothing.
I think we're just softies today & don't appreciate our hardy forebears.
donald

Re: What is a Barbarian?

Barbarians,

all the populations who pretended to be more civilised than the others called the foreigners barbarians.

I remember the ancient greeks started to call all the foreigners barbarians because they did not understand their languages (so the sound for the greeks was a kind of barr barr barr....). The Romans for example were barbarians for the Greeks and the Greeks were considered a sort of decadent people to the Republican Romans('Graecia capta ferum victorem coepit et artes intulit agresti Latio')

Celts and Germans were 'barbarians' to the Romans.

Well, I think it is too much semplicistic to name 'barbarian' a population that you don't know.

I think we should study them a little bit more...

But in the meanwhile as a modeller and a Roman descendent enemy I will buy the ancient naked Germans because they are 'naif', full of freedom and I like them.

Salus et honor vobiscum sit.

Martius

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Very surprised that you don't see a market for Byzantines - it's one of the most popular armies and with Hat making noises about producing them then I think they would increase in popularity. Question is whether early or late? Hat are going early and I reckon Strelets could get in on the act with the appropriate cavalry as this seems to be becoming a real strength of yours. Am I wrong to think Byzantines would be popular? What do other people say.

PS Bit belated but many congratulations Uwe.

BAAATAAAVIEEEEREEEEEENNNNN!

Les bataves sont en train d'arriver....

Crusades era Byzantines

I believe crusades era (roughly 1000-1300)Byzantines would be a big seller. I constantly see people decrying the lack of these troops. They would also tie in great with Strelets other new crusades sets.

A mini-set of ground troops (spearmen), another mini-set of archers and a set of heavy cavalry to complete the line.

Strelets Turcopoles, Turks, Normans and Vikings (Vangarian Guard) are already there for the large mercenary presence in the Byzantine Empire.

Anyone else agree with me?

Re: Crusades era Byzantines

Agreed, Juba.
Byzantines seem to be the most obvious gap in figure lines now.
I'd agree with your Crusade-era Byzantines but I think Early Dark Ages Byzantines would be a "must" also.
donald

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Absolutely!! Byzantines for the Crusades to complete Strelets range and Hat should produce early Byzantines as enemies for their Gotic warriors. Belisar etc.

1000 years of history can't be covered in just a few sets.

Thanks guys for the wishes!

cheers
Uwe

Strelets test crash dummies

Okay dudes, I look upon these here lost world arabic figures as being test crash dummies for producing the CW Turkish Infantry.

Re: Re: Crusades era Byzantines

Juba, Juba, Juba!

Right you are. Let's not forget Strelets's Russian warriors, which can also be used as Byzantine mercenaries.

Of course I also agree with Uwe, that we'd need early Byzantine troops as well, with a command set including Generals Belisarius, John and Narses, Emperor Justinian and his spouse Theodora. Prokopius, the historian. Cethegus and Boethius, the Roman traitors. A Byzantine imperial court with officials, scribes, Orthodox priests, body guards, dancers, musicians and slaves. Also, I'd like a civilian set to depict the cultural and ethnic diversity of Constantinople before it was sacked by the Seldjuks. Greek merchants, Armenian fishermen, a Jewish Rabbi, Venetian sailors, a Galatian family...

Also a set with Germanic, Persian and Hunnish leaders wouldn't hurt - for hopefully all those sets will follow. The Hunnish General Bessas would be nice, so would be King Geiserich for the Vandals, Totila/Baduila, Theoderich, Hildebrand etc. for the Goths.

But I can certainly wait, even a few years if needed. I'm already thrilled about Strelets' current output.