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Re: Goumier TOE Platoon Organization and what should box look like

Hello everyone,

As far as I can tell the 1943/45 Goum was a bit more modern than the 2 half sections cited above.

It had a command section with a support group armed with a 60mm mortar and a bakooka team
3 x rifle sections that had 3 FM 24/29 each and 2 VB tromblons. That would mean a classical group of 12 goumiers with a LMG group and 1 Thompson SMG for the NCO.

You still hab the mounted platoon with 38 men in 2 x 13 men groups, a eclaireur escouade of 7 and a commande element of 5. Each cavalry group had a VB tromblon.

A HMG section of 12 with 2 x Browning M1919 or in some cases still the Hotchkiss M14 and a mule team that, if anything in line with french practice with 12 men, under NCO command.

Can't find any trace of the BAR in official Tableaux d'Effectifs et Dotations for the Goums but it doesn't mean there were absent, but certainly not in place of the FM 24/29.

Official dotation for a Goum was from 1943, 9 FM 24/29, 8 VB TRamblons, 21 Thompson SMG, 1 60mm mortar, either M35 Brandt or US M2, a bazooka and of course M17 enfield rifles but mainly after the 1944 italian campaign,

Hope this helps

Re: Goumier TOE Platoon Organization and what should box look like

Thanks for the info looks reasonable.

New book on the subject by an established french author next month, hopefully will appear in an electronic format as well:

Les Goums

Same author has previous quoted 2mgs and 7 autorifles per Goum but in 1944.

Armee de la victoire

There are copies on Gallica but as yet only partially available.

:wink: