Available now but, in my opinion, quite disappointing. Only 4 poses, the trumpet looks not very much like a 17th century natural trumpet. Strange horse poses, none of them standing or trotting. Weird horse furniture: saddle bags, western saddles, odd saddle cloths, etc. Arrgghh! Well, nevertheless, I'll buy a few boxes, just for conversion. When will ACTA finally come to their senses and release their 1/32 ECW cavalry in 1/72 ?!

can you please share link

does that mean 3 trumpeters per box....sigh.

Yep (or, alternatively, three cornets),

Look at the sprues e.g. here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WATERLOO-1815-AP033-CROMWELLS-CAVALRY-ENGLISH-CIVIL-WAR-ROUNDHEADS-1-72-SCALE-/201124486201?pt=UK_Toys_Games_ToySoldiers_EH&hash=item2ed3f41c39

Thanks for the link. The pictures are disappointing. Too few poses and the
arm connection for the pose with a choice of arms looks very weak.

I am so disappointed with this set and a little angry, the one and only positive is that we now have a 1/72 ECW cavalry set,and the we also know the next one made will be better,it cant be worse.What on earth are Waterloo thinking of,they are hardy new to the hobby. The horses four running poses, all wrong ! Horse furniture wrong. One pose with a sword and no spare sword arm for the forth figure......it beggars belief.I hope PSR give`s this set the rock bottom low score it so thoroughly deserves.

would the 3 other figures in the set pass for saxon or bavarian cuirassiers during the siege of vienna period.if so at least thats something anyway.

As mentioned elsewhere, they wouldn't be an exact match either. Especially, for reasons of fashion. The cut of the coats was different in the 1680s. Notably, coats used to have quite large cuffs by then (however, a famous painting representing the battle of Vienna in 1683 by either an anonymous artist or, sometimes, attributed to Franz Geffels, dated to 1688 and preserved in the Vienna Army Museum, shows Maximilan II. Emanuel in the midst of his cuirassiers. No cuffs are recognizable but, instead, their arms are completely covered by armour, just as they were in the old days). And, usually, pistol holsters and saddles appear to have been covered with cloths (not of the fantasy type shown with the figures) by the 1680s, while up to the mid-century or so for the greater part they seem to have remained uncovered.

Found this on the net:

http://rusmilhist.blogspot.ch/2012/02/riders-of-blue-king-by-dr-benkert.html

Hallo Gentlemen


what is the size in mm ! what can i use them for !i now it can be used for ecw and tyw

regards

Tommy

Don't know their size in mm yet. What you can use them for, besides ECW and TYW, you mean? Well, should pass for Austrian or Saxon cuirassiers, for example, 2nd half 17th century, up to c.1700. Not an exact match but, actually, they aren't an exact match for ECW or TYW cavalry either, are they?

http://www.bate.ox.ac.uk/trumpet.html

I agree - the pre-production shots were even more alarming - the corselet armour and sword hilts are lifted straight off French cuiraisiers, never seen anything like the saddle bags in any illustration I have seen. The saddles could be okay - I've seen pictures of 17thC great saddles and they do look a bit like western, and the trumpets and cornets are okay ish, especially because they're a seperate arm. But the one cockup that makes me smile is the helmets.

They've been modelled as triple-barred pots (the triple bar is the visor) which generally can be raised. However the skull has been re-inforced with metal bars so you can't raise the visor if you want to. The re-inforcement is more normally found on single barred pots, or zischagge pots which don't have a raisable visor.

Well, the trumpet (the instrument) is really far from okay (see link above for a real 17th century trumpet; here a link to another period trumpet: http://trumpetmaker.yolasite.com/birckholtz---trumpet.php ; those used in England were of exactly the same type), and the same is true of the trumpeter. He is equipped like an ordinary harquebusier/ironside trooper but I would expect special costume such as a cassock, preferably with hanging sleeves, and a hat, even with parliamentary cavalry, definitely no carbine. Equally, the cornet should wear officer's dress. And the appearance of the saddle is really quite far from any TYW or ECW period saddle I have ever seen. I cannot remember any such saddles from contemporary illustrations, nor do I know of any extant original.

Are you sure that the helmets have triple bar visors? Actually, the masters do show single barred pots, as far as I can see (scroll down):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37119735@N07/sets/72157638309589246/

I don't know to what extent Zischagge pots were used in the ECW but clearly some were used, and they were fairly common in the later years of the TYW, of course.

I can only say I my defence that when I first saw the pictures they looked like triple barred pots.

But on the other hand you're also right - zischagge were about but not in those kind of numbers.

The trumpeter should - you are correct - look more like the Revell figure but having him with a seperate arm means the trumpet itself is less of a problem as the figure can be used for other things.