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Re: Turkish 1877 Infantry.

Hi guys,

usually I am quiet on the forums discussions since last year. But this is a topic, I want to give my two cents.

When I bought the Crimean Turks (well 10 big sets, sorry guys) I saw the different sprues and recognised the sense behind. There was no French style Turkish infantry in the Crimean war!!! These figures are for 1877 and would be useful for the 1897 campaign in Thessali. The ones in greatcoat are for the CW and 1877. So I hoped to see them released in a single box as Strelets did with the French Cuirassiers before. When I saw the politic of Strelets this way I thought myself "well, every other Zouave would work".

It would be better to have enough boxes of Strelets Turks to match the style of the sculpting. But if they would not be available, buy any other set of Zouaves. Emhar, HAT, Italeri, lots of metals. The only difference is the ammunition box on the front. So in case you want to mix your armies (head-conversions of Emhar 1870 Prussians would go for the Russians) than you have enough Turks for the Russo-Turkish war.

cheers
Uwe

Re: Turkish 1877 Infantry.

Uwe , i am not following this very clearly.Can we refer to VMS Vanson (they move again to new archive link)then i can follow you.

i can also see big misunderstandings by poeple mistakingly crossing Egyptian and Turk and Tunisian uniforms. (each of these are all Ottoman as you know).They are 3 different armies and had own uniforms serving the Ottoman empire. tehre were Turk talles(light) and regular just like teh others.Infantry and cavalrie trained by French .Artillery trained by teh Germans.
Turks also brake down agan to the ordu's below 1-5 corps/army with variant regional charateristics.

Just like teh brittish have the english trouser line rifles and scotlanders with skirted material.teh albert shako replaced.etc

just like the French have Light/legere Infantry Zouaves Regualr Line Infantry.
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which vanson french stle are we refering to vanson 6 or 7 sketch circa 1854 Balaclava.August new uniforms apprear and...for French also.
(sr Legere /light bye bye shako hello kepis)etc

So turks have new uniform also.
Paris: Ernest Bourdin, 1854 Raffet, Auguste (artist)
PER wARFARE AGE OF STEAM.
http://1815-1918.blogspot.com/search/label/Turkey

this BACKS and verifys VANSON image number 6...yes
only difference blue pants white pants

http://www.victorianmilitarysociety.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33:turkish-uniforms-of-the-crimean-era-part-two&catid=10:articles&Itemid=9



Vanson Figure 7 , says convoy in th e new french line uniform (that had kepis replace shako).


all this trouble,hah .You know why i do Kalafat 1853 now.And you know i am bias to Egyptian style( straight pants waist jacket taller fez/tarbouche) in Ottoman service.tehn we have the waist jacket and baggy pants too for egyptian talles.ETC ETC

vansons 7 is only OBSERVED AS "convoy duty" ,to appear as french perhaps not to be mistaken for russian.IS HOW WE COULD INTERPRET THIS.Englissdh and french of the day has changed and modernised in thought yes.

This happened alot in all wars to dress liek your ally and wear similar equipment in you get case shot at.or supply ships sunk(many as we know) shortage of coats etc.french surplus at eupatoria.oh such fun ...

Re: Turkish 1877 Infantry.

Hi Hank,

all true - but no Zouave jackets in the CW

cheers
Uwe