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Re: GNW Flags

A lot of infos and flags here:
http://www.northernwars.com/index.html

Hope this helps...

Re: Re: GNW Flags

Your best bet is to look at the links for the Swedish forces at www.juniorgeneral.org/18thcentury.htm Some of these liks have quite a few flags for the GNW

Re: Re: Re: GNW Flags

Or if you want to buy some books, search for the two excellent books from Höglund, Swedish stuff translated into English. Highly recomended!

cheers
Uwe

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I added a flag to the article about my GNW russian infantry, here you can see it. It is a completed version of the flag wich you can see on www.northernwars.com.

Any opinions?

Cheers
Zsolt

Nice work Zsolt

Hi Zsolt, congratulations on the flag. It really looks very good. Can you tell something more about the flag? To which regiment did it belong? You got me curious . By the way, I also like the painted figures. Really nice work, very detailled and live- like. I like the colours as well. You convinced me to buy some sets myself

Many regards

Thanks everyone

Thanks for your help, my friends.
Sorry for being in late with my answer, you certainly know that time is a limited resource.
As for Bill suggestion, I say yes, I have invested in the Stelets GNW sets and about the Yevgen opinion I say yes again, as Strelets figures don't match the Zvezda ones. Unfortunately this "filling someone else's range gaps" policy is the main reason I've chosen to turn my attention to lead figures and let down the plastic ones. The last bad news coming from Strelets "we won't make any crimean russian artillery as Ehmar has already covered the subject" made me look at my 4 years long collected crimean sets and think about the patience and perseveration I have thrown away. I bought all the crimean range in 18mm metal. Much more expensive, much less personality then the Strelets figures, but is complete and coherent. Thanks again everyone of you.

Re: Thanks everyone

Hi Mike,

I can understand your point. It is difficult with differenct manufactors. Strelets Swedish are historical correct while Zvezda's have the wrong cuffs. On the other hand are Zvezdas figures better in sculpting and poses.

As I make my usual bigger dioramas I have no problems to mix figures of different manufactors. When you have 2000 figures on a plate you won't see the difference as long as you don't put them together. Beside this I am 1,86 meters while my neighbor is 1,70. So I would be the Zvezda guy...

As for Russian crimean artillery we have Esci and Emhar. So for me the Russian side is completly covered. What I would like to see is British and French artillery.

cheers
Uwe

Re: Re: Thanks everyone

Strelets made more mistakes iwth both russian and swedish infantry, more than Zvezda. I f you want i will tell you what exactly are Strelets and Zvezda mistakes i have found.

So i desagree with you in this point, Uwe Wild.

Yevgen Chernov

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So please do tell us. Enquiring minds want to know.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks everyone

Yes Yevgen, please tell me what is wrong. I would like to learn more.

cheers
uwe

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Ok here are mistakes that i found in Zvezda and Strelets sets.

Lets begin with Zvezda:

Swedish infantry, all mistakes are written in PSR, but still there are some more:

1. Sergeant with partisan. He should have halberd, only officers had partisan, and sergeants are not officers.

2. Officer halfpike is very short.

3. Small flag.

4. They have no powder "natruski", i dont know how say it in English, but this item was very important, without this item you could not charge your musket.

5. Small hats, tricorns.

6. Grenadiers mitre caps only useful post Poltava, so box period is a mistake, should be 1710-1721

Ok lets talk about Russian infantry:

1. Small hats, tricorns.

2. Small flag.

3. Pike is 1,5-2 meters long and should be 5 meters.

4. No powder "natruski".

5. Nobody has scabbard for bayonets.

6. Very short halberd and partisan.

7. Fantastic pose of the musketeer who is "bitting bullet". its a mistake because there are no powder "natruski". And sculptor and nobody in Zvezda team or Strelets team knows how charged musket in GNW period, the same problem for Strelets sets.

8. They all should wear the overstockings and nobody wear it.

I wont write all Strelets mistakes, because they are the same + some more, like russian guard grenadiers helmets are incorrect, swedish musketeers has no bayonets, muskets very short, and so on......


Yevgen Chernov

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Hi Yevgen,

many thanks for your listing. You are right with all of your comments. The only thing I don't know is "Natruski". You mean maybe a powder-horn like a British rifleman? They had no paper-cartridges so the biting isn't correct. Is this what you mean?
Sadly such mistakes often appear in sets. The sculptors don't know the regular manuals and often never tried to fire a musket just to see how it works.

Ok, the length of pikes is always to short in figure-sets. I am so used with this, that I don't recognise it anymore The Tricornes - ok, but I can live with this.

I thought more about mistakes in the uniform-coat, like the too small cuffs on the Zvezda Swedish.
The bayonet scabbard is really a big mistake, I have not seen this.

So let us say we aggree ok?



cheers
Uwe

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks everyone

Yeah "natruski" is powder=horn. During GNW swedish and russian soldiers used powder horns, wich changed in some things the way of recharging the musket. It was a little bit different than in napoleonic period.

Yeah, i agree with you about pikes, but Strelets could do this, and their pi¨kes are not so bad, so Zvezda also could do this. Still its not big problem, but its incorrect.

About tricorns, the same, not very important inaccuracy.

The problems are small, but still its not correct. I just posted historical mistakes, but still these sets are very good and highly recommended to buy.

thanks to all

Yevgen Chernov

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I agree. Thank you very much for listing the errors. It is easy to simply shoot down a set by claiming that it is unhistorical. It is far more helpful to lay out what you perceive the errors in a set to be so that 1) others can investigate this for themselves to see if they are still interested in buying the set, and 2) you can takes steps through painting, conversions etc. to correct the errors.

Posting photos??

Dear Yevgen,

thank for the work you have done. Bill is right, shooting down is easy but to proof it is something very helpful to others.

Last evening, when I checked my sources I wondered if it would be possible to post photos here in our discussions. That would be a great addition to our "problems". A photo can say more than 1000 words.

Strelts, what do you think about it?

cheers
Uwe

Re: GNW Flags

Dear Mike,

you can find Russian designs on:

http://www.viskovatov.narod.ru/T02/T02_02.htm

Unfortunately the text is in old (pre 1917 Revolution) Russian, so we are unsure how it will work with modern translation software.

Probably some of our Russian-speaking visitors will help you with the translation.

Best regards,

Strelets