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Re: Re: graham...1066

actually, every schoolboy used to learn that date in history in the u.s. even if you couldn't remember hastings true historical significance, you remembered the date. of course, nowadays, history books focus less on war and possibly more on economic and social history. Bah! anyway, i did a term paper on the battle of hastings in college and it's aftermath. (i examined the normans treatment of the anglo-saxons) and discovered the viking invasion just prior to hastings. Stamford bridge? that's the battle i'm fascinated by. now there's enough saxon and viking sets to do a great diorama of that battle. harald hardrada invaded england with 500 ships and the survivors returned in 25. now that's a defeat! and then, the saxons had to march all the way to hastings and fight the normans. so, yes, some americans are interested in that era, or maybe just me!

Re: Re: Re: graham...1066

Stamford bridge is good- but I wanna hear about Fulford-

Two huge Mercian and Northumbrian armies (many part viking) in a close fight with the Viking Army of Hardrada.

Probably bigger than stamford and hastings in numbers- and starts the chain off!

And on the subject of turks- O.K No CW turks, mmm there are no Naps turks either. come on we all have our favourites, but these guys run abuisiness they have to prioritise whats sells in volume

Re: Re: Re: Re: graham...1066

adam, were the mercian and northumbrian armies partially made up of danes from the Danelaw? were the Danelaw men loyal to Alfred or did they assist Harald? i can't remember reading about them in my research, but i'm sure they played a role of some sort. i'll have to research fulford. and was the stamford bridge wooden or stone? thanks for the input.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: graham...1066

Locals from the Danelaw seem to have fought for the Northern Earls (in turn fought under Harold- who was cousin to the Danish king Sven Estridson) Though the Northern Earls and thegns had always been more rebellious than the south because a lot of them were Danes.

I have no doubt that some must have joined Harald, but don'tforget he would have promised lands to his follwers, so the Danes, Norwegians, hiberno-Norse, Irish, Anglo-Saxon men who already held land here had a common interest despite their differences- keeping what they already had!

Stamford bridge was probably wooden and probably pretty small- we assume this as there is an account of a Norse warrior, Dane axe in hand, holding up the attacking Saxons and slaying many of them as the tried to cross. finally a boat was brought and the warrior was squewered from underneath the bridge between the boards or open sides of the bridge (were not sure but it seems more likely in either case to be wood)

the Norwegian invasion of england is a greatbook on this subject (by Kelly DeVries) but its a hard work read! It uses a lot of the norse sources which most books ignore 'cos the translation is harder!


Re: New Sets Disaointment

When people write about sets that they wish were made the issue always comes back to economics. you want Crimean War figures, while I have absolutely no interest in them, but love any and all Roman sets.
Would it be possible for sets of limited interest
(I know Crimean War is not limited interest), to have the buyers subscribe to a series or pre-buy the sets to guarentee that it is economically feasable to produce it? I don't know at what point the costs get too high to proceeed. Maybe the company could design a set and produce masters. Based on these they could take orders and if enough are received produce the set. I would think that, with x number of guarenteed sales a company would be eager to produce the set.
Again, I admit that I don't know the economics involved.
Ken More Romans! Kasenter

P.S. PSR is the first thing I check every morning.
Thank you.

An Excellent Idea

That's an innovative idea Ken and certainly worth considering IMHO (although I'm not an expert on the economics of the business, either). I think the main problem would be that the manufacturers would have to invest some money before people will pre-order (and put up some money of their own). Maybe one master to show the sculpting style and drawings of the poses would be enough. What do the others think? Perhaps 18th century Highlanders would be a good test case...

Re: An Excellent Idea

The idea is good, but does a manufactor sells his figures directly to the collectors without a dealer between?


Re: thanks, adam

thanks for the info on the anglo-saxon/viking war. very interesting subject. there's somethng about vikings that will always intrigue us. maybe it was those juvenile history books we started out with in grammer school. every school library had a couple. there's good scope for a diorama or wargame with these forces. thanks again!

Re: Re: thanks, adam

As I have the Saxons allready, the Vikings should be easily painted.


Re: Re: Re: thanks, adam

I actually reenact the viking period- 1016-35 specifically, so if you need and tips on them give me a shout- I have replicas of neraly everything!

I made a dane axe to the exact same weight, shape and size of an original found in the thames- mounted it on a hand shaped ash shaft and guess what- it rings like a tuning fork!!!!

Its because the middle bits of the blade were so thin that they play a note!

Re: Re: Re: Re: thanks, adam

So they had their own soundtrack in their battles like we have in modern movies now


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: thanks, adam

probably a mix of enya and tubular bells!

more viking "operations"

About battles with vikings taking part in, you could also take account of more episodies
interesting for wargame or diorama:

-Clontarf: Irish king Brian Boru defetaed near Dublin. Viking, anglo saxon and pict/scottish( as celtic irishmen) figures can be used

-Viking raid on Paris: viking (with boats!!) fighting Carlomagne´s franks.

-Viking raids in mediavel spain: fighting the post-gothic christian ¡kingdoms of the Nort, or muslims in Al-Andalus

-Vikings in Vinland!!: you can use them as discoverers of the New World, and fight against some Italeri´s wood indians!!