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To Dave Hennen

Dear Dave,

thank you for your message.
We aren't sure whether it makes sense to repeat other companies' sets unless you are confident that you can say a new word in this area. For example we were planning to release British hussars for the charge of the Light brigade but now that they were released by Emhar we will possibly abandon this set. The same thing is valid for the Russo-Japanese war as well. We are very grateful to you for excellent pictures that you sent to us on this subject but now that Ceasar has announced their sets we won't make these sets despite all the temptation.
Best regards,

Strelets-R

To Everyone - Please Encourage S*R to Make C.W. British Hussars

Dear S*R Team,

Thank you again for your reply. I do hope you round-table the idea of the Crimean British Hussars again. You have already produced 3 of the finest sets to go with them. Equal to the 17th, the Hussars are central to the famous "Charge!" Unless the first 3 sets are not selling, there is every reason to complete the set of 4 Cavalrys.

I can concede on the Russo-Japanese theme but not on the Hussars. I have to say they are simply too important to complete your range. If you want a classy German car people buy Porsche or BMW or Benz. If they want economy, they buy VW. The emhar set with exactly 2 hussar poses is as cheap as anyone has ever gotten that I can recall in this 1/72 figurine hobby, and both the poses are the same, and they have the nerve to call it a set? I'd never buy a rip-off set like this. And esci have 6 silly poses and 3 dancing horses. It is not often that I have to beg someone to take my money, but I will here.

Strelets*R is the "King of the Crimea!" and all other sets suffer in comparison to yours. I will forever be waiting to purchase many boxes of your future set of Hussars with all their fine details and in 12 great poses to go with my many boxes of your first 3 sets. These Hussars were "Elegant" and deserve to be immortalized with thier other mates.

I hope someone else comes on board here and encourages the S*R Team to make the Crimean British Hussars in 12 handsome poses!

British hussars

I entirely agree that SR should make british hussars. It is an obvious gap in the otherwise complete cavalry range. I would think hussars looked much the same the world over, so some proper mid-19 century hussars could also be used for many other armies in europe, south america etc. A little enterprise could make them usable for earlier conflicts also.

Boy this is tuff,...

While in principle I agree, I like Hennan's earlier suggestion better. Let's hit some of those eras not touched on at all. So like he said, do the range, but do the most importants sets from an era first, and at the same time do a couple sets from another era in the batch. That way everyone will have something to buy. I like the idea of the whole range, but if you use up all six sets on a single range, what if it's something I don't want? Then I have to wait another few months. I'm glad the September batch has several eras. I'll tell you right now, I ain't buying any of the Medeivels! But I'll get the ACW.
Arlin

Re: Re: Strelets-R .. Downscaling & Retirement ??? Say it ain't so.

Well, didn't see French and Indian War. Also, tons of stuff for AWI, as well as ACW. And early 19th Century Indian wars, then there is the need for good Alamo figures, and then Mexican-American war, Apaches, and, oh yeah, War of 1812, then 'modern' like Vietnam. Then still a need for a good, never mind decent, Custer set, though your US Cavalry is a great start. So, continue that. The list goes on. You could do 6-10 sets based on American History a year and not cover them all in a decade. Then there is Canadian History. Keep at it.

Re: Strelets-R ... Gaps ... Downscaling & Retirement ... below 6/1/06 ... ???

The civilians suggestion might also be useful for model railway and diorama enthusiasts. There is always a need for people to populate platforms, towns, work scenes and rural scenes. The strelets style of multiple poses would fit this perfectly. And, since railways have been around since the mid 19th century, you could easily produce mid 19th and mid 20th century civilian sets.
Just a thought.
David M

Re: Re: Strelets-R ... Gaps ... Downscaling & Retirement ... below 6/1/06 ... ???

I continue to say it again. Where is the gap? In my opinion the strelets style of multiple poses would fit perfectly for a 1/72 adaption of the Warhammer rule book Legends of the old west:
Please give us cowboys, lawmen, desperados, mexicans and so on posses.

Also modern conflicts would be interesting. In 20 mm tin there a lot of modern figures: Why not in plastics ? Just have a look at www.elhiem.com to see some pictures.

And last but not least the French and Indian War would be also an interesting period for the multiple poses figures.

Why not fill gaps in succesfull areas

Your concept opens more possibilities then you might imagine.
It is perfect to fill gaps in existing succesfull areas.
Let us say Waterloo. All is covered. Yes most nations are, but there is something missing.

Let us look at the Brusnwick troops.
We have leib and avante guard, but no light or line. Will people buy this? Yes they will. Enough? Yes if you make it even more interesting.

Why not make a set called Brunswick army (48 men on foot) including:
- light/line infantry and command (officer, standard bearer, drummer)in total about 27
- leib/ avante guard command (officers, drummer/hornist) in total about 4
- Brunswick foot artillery (6 men and officer, no gun)
- you could add some men killed or wounded.

A great mix, well within the strelets concept and everybody who buys it will need at least four for the battery, or 6 for the infantry battalions. So it will sell.

You could do this for the Dutch-Belgian army or other nations (Bavarian, Prussian landwehr,...)and periods. You would fill the gap hat has left and sell sets.

Plus you could only make 30 men on foot and include 6 mounted (general, colonel, ADC, personality) to spice things up. This to you have done before (Peters guard)


What do you think

Re: Crimean War British Hussars

I do not think a particular topic should be ruled out just because a different manufacturer has covered it. If you produce a better set, we, the customers, will buy it (a sort of supply creates its own demand). Do not abandon the Crimean War British Hussars plan. Since Strelets' Crimean War theme has been a success so far (you do agree, I hope), let's have a complete line. There are factors that we mentioned repeatedly in this forum that make Strelets sets unique in this hobby and I believe that a lot of the suggested themes mentioned above by others can be profitable projects.

However, I do observe that very few of the hobby stores in my area have Strelets sets. Those that have Strelets sets have only a few available. Internet sales and distribution certainly can reach a broader global market, but traditional distribution channels should not be ignored. It is often the diorama in the store window display or that colorful box that a child picked up at the store on an occasional visit that ignites the spark of a potential hobbist.

Re: Re: Crimean War British Hussars

I agree with this.

I see no reason why you shouldn't make the hussars.
Didn't you refuse to make ECW figures a few topics ago, argumenting that it would look much better if one manufacturer made all the figures? So why not make the hussars then?

The emhar figures look great, no doubt but so do the strelets sets (so a fan certainly wants both). But the last look far the best standing among the other strelets crimean sets.

The emhar figures can be used to add some extra poses to the strelets set, which is the best set to use as the basic for each regiment. Please don't change that.

Crimean War British Hussars - reasons for

Dear All

Napoleonic French foot Artillery- Airfix did that so don't touch.
Zvezda have done them - thank goodness for the Airfix ones were poor.

Every company brings a new interpretation to figures; their own style, poses, emphasis and so on (eeek scale sometimes). A company like Zvezda know their strengths and so jump in.

Emhar Crimean Brit Hussars 2 poses and 5 figs. Cardigan's own boys, his cherry bums literally look a bit thin when mixed in with the Strelets heavies. I suppose to add insult to injury we could use the wholly inaccurate Esci/Italeri Hussars as they did it first so don't expect any more. If they have been done twice before then never!never! never!.. well hardly ever.
Is it scruples or ***** marketing? Not sure.

To salve a troubled conscience they could be the 11th Hussars or the 8th depending on which the Emhar and Esci ones are. The 8th Hussars had dark blue trousers. The one on the Emhar box is of the 11th Hussars.

Inconsistency? - several companies made indifferent sets of US Indian Wars Cavalry but this did not stop Strelets coming along and bettering them. Collectors of these were very pleased and wait for Apaches and others.

Dominic
By the way Dominic I am not sure of the country you live in but Games Workshops in the UK are always full of youngsters prepared to rest their thumbs and carpel tunnels from their normal XBox, PS2 and push bits o'plastic and metal around. There lies the vast untapped market of the future and proves that this isn't just an "old man's" hobby.

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Dear Forummeers
The word I used is five letters begins with QU and ends in R and has EE in the middle meaning unusual or strange.
Sensitivities strike again. Oxford English Dictionary better now delete that word.

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Strelets-R ...Russian Civil war

Red Army-
Latvian guard
Red navy
Red cossacs
Red Infantry(in summer/winter uniforms
Red artillery
White army
White navy
White cossacs
White Infantry(in summer/winter uniforms
White artillery
Natonal Armies
Estonian
Latvian
Belorussian
Ucrainian
Polish
+ western powers

We need them

Re: Strelets-R ...Russian Civil war

Kert, how wonderful that would be ah...