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Re: Re: Re: French mounted line infantry officer

Hi

I missed those, not that reliable - compare red saddle cloth verus blue for example, Herbert Knötel, does show them also in the book edited by Elting, but he already got the dates wrong, dating them for 1812 wheras for shure recent research and especially the recently published Freiberger and Dresden picture manuscript do show that the Bardin uniform appreared in late 1813 in the German Campaign.
Bernard Coppens shows a nice Major in one of the Carnets about Waterloo.

I would stick with Rousselot, he seem to be still the best secondary source for French Napoleonic Infantry.

Re: Re: Re: Re: French mounted line infantry officer

Yes, Toussaint has his officer with red saddle cloth and holster covers. Looks strange - but who knows?. Bucquoy's illustrations appear to be more reliable as they show blue ones. Especially, the figure of the colonel of the 153rd may be a copy of a contemporary portrait as Bucquoy even mentions the man's name (Mathieu). However, I couldn't find any reference to his possible source, so I don't know for sure.

mounted officer

@strelets: send me a mail, I´ll send you a scan I have found in my papers.

roland.kupski@najemo.de

Re: Help of the Community Required

look Osprey books they are exelent and acurate

Re: Re: Help of the Community Required

I disagree, some are very good, others are not.

Links

Perhaps not a "source", and not 1814, but here are some painted metal scans with mounted french infantry officers with pre-Bardin lapels.

http://dare.paradise.net.nz/valeur/infantry.htm

I have a book with Edouard Detaille's paintings, and it does have a black and white picture of a mounted french line infantry officer in Bardin uniform. Counted find it on the web and don't have a scanner, unfortunately.

If I find more, I'll show the link.

Some miniatures scans

Some nice poses:
http://www.schmaeling.de/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.schmaeling.de/

http://www.schmaeling.de/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.schmaeling.de/

http://www.najemo.de/najemo/4images/details.php?image_id=187&sessionid=c9db401cae227981a176a7bac4e77e95

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/detail.asp?product_id=NXG-43

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/detail.asp?product_id=NXG-44

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/FN/7/index.asp

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/FN/2/index.asp


Perhaps a bit too dramatic:

http://www.toysoldiersclub.com/Toy-Soldiers-Figure-Detail.aspx?t=2&f=1&c=3&Pro=598

http://www.traditionoflondon.com/Products/ShowImage.asp?ID=1442&Typ=Toy&ID2=56

Re: Help of the Community Required

Hi Strelets,

in the Freiberger Handschrift is a lot of interesting
material to answer your question.

If you like, please contact me at home and I can send you photos.

cheers
Uwe

Re: Re: Help of the Community Required

Hi Uwe

I checked it an cannot find any mounted infantry officer in the Bardin uniform, neither in the Freiberger, nor in the "Camp de Dresde", on what page did you find them??

Re: Re: Re: Help of the Community Required

Dear Carnot,

on page 117 of the Campe de Dresden you can see the
details of officer shabrackes.
Well, they are all ADC's, but Courcelle took this information for line officers too.

cheers
Uwe

Re: Re: Re: Re: Help of the Community Required

Hi

so there is no mounted infantry officers in the Bardin uniform in the whole book, I did fear I missed something, as for the shabraques, I still would be dubious if that was used as general distinction, but I did not research that topic.