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Re: OK, So Here's Where I'm at ... !!!

OK guys, my "A Bridge Too Far" really is too far away. In fact the new order for the bridge itself, as they say, is somewhere on a boat between China and here. My fault!

But what I do have in my possession is, Chinese Gordon's, or Gordon Pasha's Khartoum's Palace pieces for this playset. Charles Gordon's Palace, where he supposedly was killed by the Mahdist Warriors (like in the Charlton Heston movie "Khartoum") was actually much more modest than the building of today. The rebuilt structure is today called The Republican Palace, or The Presidential Palace. There are enough illustrations of the Gordon Pasha Palace original to make a pretty accurate Playset, I think.

Here is the set from China which I will use five (5) of these on a base to represent this now gone, yet fabulous landmark. This is exactly 1/72 scale. I'll explain more when I've got some pics done. Link:

Link to "Khartoum" movie opening about the Nile River that is majestic!:

VIP to Ukraine and the rest of us! - GC

Re: OK, So Here's Where I'm at ... !!!

Hi Garrison, thanks for sharing. Khartoum was a great movie! I noticed the Egyptian army flag in the movie had 1 x star? I think the 3 x star version was used during Gordon Pasha's tenure? Am I right or wrong?

Re: OK, So Here's Where I'm at ... !!!

Hi Baratheon,

The question regarding the Egyptian flag is a good one. There is a photograph of Kitchener's men raising the Egyptian and British flags over Gordon Pasha's Palace after taking back Khartoum in 1898. The Egyptian flag clearly only has one star. I also looked at the site and all the medals given out during the battles at that time only have one star also. A photo of the Palace in 1936, though, clearly has 3 stars on the Egyptian flag.

In, Battle of Abu Klea, 1885 when Gordon was killed the Campaign Medals also have only 1 star. Scroll down to the bottom.

But if you look in, they show a flag with 3 stars which was used up until 1885 when Khartoum fell to the Mahdists.

So I'm going to guess that from 1885 until at least 1898 the flag only had one star. That's what I'll put on my Playset Palace anyhow, but could be wrong.

So, I'm no expert on the history of flags and I'm only making assumptions by looking up any kind of pictorial evidence. I can only hope it helps, but please don't hold me to this.

Cheers and good luck - GC

Re: OK, So Here's Where I'm at ... !!!

Thanks Garrison, this was helpful. I also lean towards your theory about time-periods used for the 2 flags being right. I was always surprised to learn The Sudan-Mahdist war consisted of several campaigns over a 18 year period. A fascinating time in history.