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Re: A question of scale

donald,

I use plastic broom bristles for pikes and long spears, and find this is very effective. The plastic bristles are strong, flexible, light, the right width and can be cut to around 60-70mm length depending on the broom head. I also find it easier to glue plastic to plastic than metal to plastic, although a drilled hole will hold a wire pike perfectly well. A single broom head also yields hundreds of 'pikes'. I simply trim both ends of the bristle, flatten about 3- 4mm one end with using the flat bit of a pair pliers, and trim to form the pike head. It takes about 30 seconds per pike. Obviously, for a sarissa/phalangite pike you can do the same at the butt end to form the ferrule (I forget the technical Greek term for the spike at the end!).

Here are some lansknechts (Redbox and Orion) showing the effect with 60-65mm pikes:





I look forward to seeing your phalanx as this develops!

Re: A question of scale

@ Minuteman: a fine body of troops & no-one could quibble with your pikes.

I did check out the local hardware store for a suitable broom head & it wasn't all that cheap @ $15. The florist wire came in packs of 30 lengths about 35cms long for $4.50 so dearer per pike but not outrageously so.

I think I'm over painting masses of figures in a short time, so the Pyrrhic project will take many, leisurely & enjoyable months before the army hits the wargames' table.

donald

Re: A question of scale

@Paintdog/donald,

Thanks. It sounds as if florists wire is a bargain price in your part of the world, broom heads a little less so. The wire will, I am sure, give a good result and as you observe it is the mass effect of the long pikes that makes a difference visually: I seriously doubt that anyone is going to be cheeky enough to measure your phalanx's pikes once they are on the tabletop!

I know what you mean about taking your time over masses of troops. My current project (Thirty Years War) involves a lot of pikemen...around 250 when I counted the figures up a few days ago...and many of these have required broom bristle pikes. Thankfully, I am now through the 'pike making-fixing-securing-undercoating phase'; I now simply have a lot of figures to paint.:grinning:

And all this just as the Strelets WoSS cavalry sets are hitting the retailers!

Re: A question of scale

Minuteman
@Paintdog/donald,

My current project (Thirty Years War) involves a lot of pikemen...around 250 when I counted the figures up a few days ago..!


I have a phalanx of 36 figures to paint: I feel like a beginner to your masses.

donald

Re: A question of scale

Paint dog
Minuteman
@Paintdog/donald,

My current project (Thirty Years War) involves a lot of pikemen...around 250 when I counted the figures up a few days ago..!


I have a phalanx of 36 figures to paint: I feel like a beginner to your masses.

donald
Ah, but it's quality not quantity that counts! And hardly a 'beginner' either! Good luck with the phalanx.:relaxed:

Re: A question of scale

I don't do figures with pikes, but as for the broom bristle thing, I use nylon paint brush bristles for vehicle radio antennas and after 40 years of doing that I am still on the same paint brush. So I suspect one broom would last several lifetimes of basing figures. The biggest advantage is once they are on the figure, they never need repair, because they don't break and you don't injure yourself when you put your hand on a stand of them.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

Re: A question of scale

Is this the derivation of " Brush with Death"
Don't tell him Pike !

Now that would be pointless

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
you don't injure yourself when you put your hand on a stand of them.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog


You clearly miss the point (pun intended).

I purposely sharpen the end of pikes so that any opponent daring to touch my figures risks impalement.


(just kidding: I take time to file off the sharpness after I create the spear point).


donald

Re: Now that would be pointless

Ah, I feel foolish now. Oh well back to those pesky Vikings !
Paul

Re: Now that would be pointless

Paint dog
Mike Bunkermeister Creek
you don't injure yourself when you put your hand on a stand of them.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog


You clearly miss the point (pun intended).

I purposely sharpen the end of pikes so that any opponent daring to touch my figures risks impalement.


(just kidding: I take time to file off the sharpness after I create the spear point).


donald
Weirdly, I recall a cartoon in a very old wargames magazine where the commander of a tabletop phalanx continues to explain an arcane point of the rules, impervious to the fact that his opponent has just impaled his hand on the phalanx!

Also somewhat weirdly (and more seriously), I purchased some 15mm metal figures from a well-known manufacturer a couple of years back where the pikes came as stiff metal (steel?) wire, flattened and sharpened (and that means needle-sharp) to form pikes. Good figures, but properly dangerous miniature pikes. Should have come with a health warning.

Miniatures hazardous to your health

Minuteman
Paint dog
]Weirdly, I recall a cartoon in a very old wargames magazine where the commander of a tabletop phalanx continues to explain an arcane point of the rules, impervious to the fact that his opponent has just impaled his hand on the phalanx!

Also somewhat weirdly (and more seriously), I purchased some 15mm metal figures from a well-known manufacturer a couple of years back where the pikes came as stiff metal (steel?) wire, flattened and sharpened (and that means needle-sharp) to form pikes. Good figures, but properly dangerous miniature pikes. Should have come with a health warning.
Well, that suggests a twist to the topic: see my revised title.

I guess lead figures might be hazardous, though I've never eaten any nor known anyone who has.

How about miniatures so ugly/inaccurate (naming no manufacturers) they caused me heart palpitations?

Any more?

donald