Strelets Forum

Welcome to the Strelets Forum.
Please feel free to discuss any aspect of 1/72 scale plastic figures, not simply Strelets.
If you have any questions about our products then we will answer them here.

Strelets Forum
Start a New Topic 
Author
Comment
View Entire Thread
Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

Hi all
Mon morning mule musings again - persistence pays!
Good news for all who want mules.
I contacted Paul of Early War Miniatures with a wish for mules and he's come up with the goods!
He supplies mules as sets of Indian Mountain Guns etc, but he's happy to supply them separately without loads, just moulded on harness!
He also does camels. I'll shortly be placing an order with EWM - they do lots interesting stuff, WW1 & 2, interwar and scenics etc.
Hope this helps folks.
Stay safe and Carry on Collecting!
Richard

Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

Thanks Richard. They do have a lot of interesting stuff indeed. After searching the website thoroughly I could find a statement that read "most of our products are designed for 20mm". I looked at several products, but sizing and scale confirmation was not described on any of them. Thus, I am reluctant to purchase if their products are closer to HO/OO scale than 25mm (1/72). Is this the case? Thanks in advance

Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

Hi Baratheon
Well, I would say that they are roughly 20mm. Fact is I rarely buy metal and then only to fill in gaps left by plastic manufacturers!
I have only placed a couple of small orders with EWM, mostly for guns and vehicles from their Italian range.
I find that 20mm metal generally seems to run a little larger than 1/72 scale plastics. But as I say I don't buy many. For example I recently got an ACW set of artillery and their site says that figures were origionally designed to complement the Airfix ACW figures. I had a few free sample figures and I find they're a little taller than plastics! Then again people and animals come in all sizes and shapes! I had a look at mules online and they vary somewhat in size etc.
Given the difficulty of finding mules I'm not got worry too much about slight scale differences but this a matter of personal taste!
You can look at online images, such as the Indian Mountain gun set including 5 mules (WW1) and see if other people have thoughts on scale and maybe get a better idea. You could even try emailing Paul with questions - that's how I discovered the mules!
Being almost retired I have to watch the budget carefully but sometimes when there's not much choice I have to take a chance!
To sum up, when there no alternatives I use metals to fill in the gaps and I don't worry too much about small differences in scale. That's my personal thoughts and views, which may well be different to others such as yourself.
Anyway, I hope this helps.
As ever stay safe.
Richard

Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

Hi Baratheon
I'll be ordering a dozen mules at £1 each in a day or 2 so I'll give you my impressions for what they're worth!
I'll also order a couple more items suchas Jap artillery and motorcycles!
I did ask about scale but Paul didn't comment on that so it's up to you to do a little research and decide whether they're for you.................
Best regards
Richard

Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

Hi Richard,

It's certainly a unique marketing approach to keep the scale of your product lines somewhat mysterious, and seemingly continue to be secretive in response to customer queries!

I do look forward to hearing your analysis once you get them.

Thanks again,

Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

Hi Baratheon
Well a quick internet search finds some interesting comments on scale. An earlier commeent by Paul on Benno's Forum says that according to PSR 20mm covers oo/ho to 26mm! But generally 1/72 scale, and mentions compatibilty with ranges such as Armourfast.
In the articles section there is interesting background especially on Aussie troops.
So far as I can see the scale is 20mm, roughly equivalent to 1/72.
I typed in EWM 20mm scale? so you can see what you come up with!
Hope this helps. I'm going quiet for a while as I have much to get on with but I'm sure I'll be back soon.
Stay safe folks
Richard

Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

Hi again Baratheon and all!
Good news is that the mules have finally arrived!
First impressions are that they are a good 20mm or thereabouts, as previously noted the size of mules, and indeed horses and other animals can vary considerably. I'll compare and check later but they may even be a shade small.
Other points to note are that they are all one pose (12) and have moulded on harness and frame but that can sanded off. I'm sure I'll be getting more mules and indeed other items from EWM as budget permits. For my purposes, currently carrying/towing Jap artillery I think they'll be most satisfactory, at a very reasonable £1 each plus signed for post.
That's my thoughts - hope you find them useful.
Stay safe and Carry on Collecting folks!
Richard

Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

A set of transport mules in plastic would be excellent!

I was surprised to read this on wiki:
"The mule comes in all sizes, shapes and conformations. There are mules that resemble huge draft horses, sturdy quarter horses, fine-boned racing horses, shaggy ponies and more"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule#Characteristics

So you can make horses more "mule-like" by increasing the size of the ears.

The Spanish army in the early 20th century used mules and both sides in the SCW made extensive use of them for general transport and for disassembled mountain guns. Here's an example of a big mule at the time of the attempted coup in July 1936 (bit blurry but white animal in the centre)



70mm infantry/mountain howitzers were broken down into 5 loads:

%%bbCodeItem_2%%

105mm mountain guns were broken down into 7 loads:

Re: Mules to carry Mountain Gun

Briefly, it's interesting to see these comments on size which confirms my brief Wiki research on mules!
So, maybe scale isn't too important, after all 1/72 scale covers quite a lot of ground, depending on manufacturer's interpretations!
Re mule loads, it may be worth looking at EWM's Early WW2 Italian range, showing mules with various loads of machine guns, general packs etc.
Hope this helps!
Stay safe folks
Richard