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Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

ironsides
Pa
Kim, same here. Swapping weapons however usually is beyond my abilities when it comes to providing a bond strong enough for handling the figures afterwards, and I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t base most of my figures.

Here how I do it, cut the whole arms and attached weapon off a doner figure, no handling fiddly weapons...
you can pin the arms to the shoulders with a couple of dress making pins whilst the glue sets, and then pull them out the tiny holes will close up...
in this example I used a primer stick from a two part super glue and a very strong CA gel..
Once in place any excess glue can be smoothed off with a cocktail stick this will also help to fill any small gaps..



Hope this Helps...


GC postimage is the most hassel free site I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'ve come across for sure...

:wink:
You have conquered what I gave up on long ago - arms. All of your conversions of arms with weapons look so natural. An engineering marvel. I'll guess the conversion parts came from the old Italian company. They made really nice, fun figures also; highly detailed. But the Airfix WWI sets will always remain sentimental favorites. I've always liked the early war headgear on the Germans, Americans and British, but actually prefer the Adrian helmets on the French. Just in case you didn't know, the WWI French were released in Light Blue and Tan also, and all the Germans, Americans and British in Tan, too.

OK, enjoyed the pic and Cheers!

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

GC Esci/italeri lebels from foreign legion, the packs and helmets are moulded using a pressmold made by pushing the relevant part in milliput/green stuff, this will last for a while and uses old sprues...these are really old 70s production airfix given a new lease of life as the plastic was good but many had battle injuries...

You can use this method to make the arms move by drilling a small hole all the way through shoulders/arms and use a piece of stretched sprue as the pin, welded over at the ends to hold everything in place so they dont fall apart...

I like soft plastic for conversions, some recent plastic from italeri is too hard to cut easy so beware :wink:

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas - remembering John Sandars

Kim Crankshaw

I'm not sure if others on this site would be aware of an English chap called John Sandars, (a veteran of the Desert campaign I believe) who featured in Airfix magazine in the 1970's. He created a whole series of Desert war scenes using the Airfix 1/32 Polythene British/German figures and made some fabulous figures of mainly British and Italian desert troops in very character driven poses. Obviously a larger scale than what we are referring to here, but the same principles would apply.

John Sandars was one of the early pioneers of both figure and vehicle conversions, and as mentioned his subject was mainly WW2, and especially British and Commonwealth forces in the Western Desert. He worked in various scales, but if you wish to see what was possible in 1/76 with a very limited range of almost-entirely Airfix figures and kits (as was the case in the early to mid 1970s) then look up the Airfix Magazine Guide No 20 on the '8th Army'. This small book is packed full of notes, illustrations and photos of the numerous 8th Army conversions that he undertook to create a comprehensive battle order for most types of unit in the 8th Army. Even now, with a massively greater range of models and figures, it is inspirational to see what he was able to do.

John Sandars died tragically young, but had he lived longer he would undoubtedly become one of the most renowned ever modellers of WW2 British and Commonwealth subjects.

Have a look at this link if you are interested:

http://vintagewargaming.blogspot.com/2009/04/john-sandars.html

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas - remembering John Sandars

Thank you Minuteman, that is about all I found from him online - well worth a look.

I find I learn more from conversions of very old (Airfix 8th Army 1st version) 1/76 figures than from conversions in other scales. For some reason, transferring techniques from another scale just does not work well for me.

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

Kim, the Boer figures seem a good basis for "scruffy" looking SCW milita / infantry and artillery troops. I bought the Strelets "Long Tom" gun set for exactly that purpose.

I have also used the odd Confederate (after a headswap) as well; weaponry was very different 70+ years after the ACW but images of foot soldiers with blanket rolls are "iconical" for both conflicts. The sets you mentioned have poses that work for 20th century conflicts as well.

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

Conversions are a great way to do something fun while having to stay indoors whether because of winter weather or other things.

I feel head swops give so much variety and are fairly easy to do. Some with different head gear and others simply by turning a Cavalryman's head looking off in a different direction. Here is a link of my AWI head swops, mostly Airfix giving me British with 3 different types of headgear, some different wagons and artillery, too. Link:

http://www.hat72.com/Othr8/Clay04P.html


Here is another link of my Giant/Hong Kong Copies of Britains Swoppets, maybe the first plastic figures intended for conversions or swops:

http://www.hat72.com/Othr7/Clay08P.html


Actually, I would enjoy Strelets including a couple of or a few extra heads with different headgear in their sets as a kind of bonus to give me more poses. I would be more likely to buy extra boxes to make a different looking army. Such as my AWI figures having 3 types of headgear.

Pa, to give you some ideas or inspiration for your SCW or SJW you might try checking some of BUM's set's pictures on Google Images. They have been very creative using existing sets to make new sets. They have made many short-run limited production sets not found in any catalogues I can find.

BTW, my links above are postings from years ago still found on Google Images using what are now considered "Vintage/Classic" figures mostly out of production these days and never intended to promote any particular brand name. Hope it's OK.

Have fun - GC

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

GC, time for a confession. I have ever since admiring your Swoppets and been wondering how on earth do you manage to carve a peg out of one figure that - and that is the point - fits snuggly into a cavity you drilled into another figur's half?

I think I asked this before on the "other" forum but without images this will probably remain beyond me.

When trying this I see myself having 50% waste _plus_ failures. That's why I use pegs for my headswaps.

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

Good morning, Pa. You are absolutely correct. If you try to recreate 1/72 in the actual Swoppet style, you'll in most cases have to use 2 figures to get 1 because of the one-piece head with peg. However, when I bought my Hong Kong Copies of I suppose pantographed down Swoppets (Giant Brand), there were plenty of poorly formed figures. To make them useful, they become "spare parts." It would be too expensive and too time consuming to build a whole army of these guys. But that's part of the passion of this hobby, whether painting or converting, just having a little challenging fun! I'm sure someone else could do it better than me and with more economy in mind. For me, if by sharing a few pics of the end product is enjoyable to other hobbiests also, then that makes it all the more rewarding. :innocent:

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

GC
Good morning, Pa. You are absolutely correct. If you try to recreate 1/72 in the actual Swoppet style, you'll in most cases have to use 2 figures to get 1 because of the one-piece head with peg. However, when I bought my Hong Kong Copies of I suppose pantographed down Swoppets (Giant Brand), there were plenty of poorly formed figures. To make them useful, they become "spare parts." It would be too expensive and too time consuming to build a whole army of these guys. But that's part of the passion of this hobby, whether painting or converting, just having a little challenging fun! I'm sure someone else could do it better than me and with more economy in mind. For me, if by sharing a few pics of the end product is enjoyable to other hobbiests also, then that makes it all the more rewarding. :innocent:
It certainly is, so many thanks again GC!

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

Just want you to know, Pa, I did rifle thru my old digital pics and couldn't find anything new that was worth posting that is earth-shaking and current. I'm afraid my best work is in the links I posted above. Nothing any more revealing. OK, cheers!

Re: SCW & SJW conversions ideas

Ironsides, GC, thank you for posting the links / images. Apologies for the delay. Regards, Pa