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Re: Early WW2 subjects...Kradschutzen and others

PeterTheGreat
On the whole, WWII clearly remains the most popular & profitable topic for the scale model industry. In view of a steadily growing supply situation, it is only logical that hobbyists try to detect relevant subjects that have either been dealt with unsatisfactorily or are not represented at all.
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- Kradschützen, mounted/dismounted in distinctive gear & poses (summer dress)
Not an absolute necessity for this specific theatre, but generic Kradschützen would be very useful for almost all early war campaigns (1939-42) as well.

MARIOS KONTOGIANNIS
... Greek 1940-41 army ... as well as some Italian infantry and mountain troops is a must. I must say that this was the only European front for six precious months (November 1940 till April 1941)just before Barbarossa ...

Strelets constantly proves an striking openness regarding reputedly "uneconomic" subjects and areas. The Balkans 1940-45 (Greco-Italian War, Axis Invasions of Yugoslavia & Greece and extensive subsequent partisan warfare) certainly is one of those strangely neglected WWII theatres. That could be changed with another handful of boxes.
- Greek infantry with support weapons & Mountain Troops
- more distinctive ANZAC infantry with support weapons
- Yugoslavian regular infantry (could serve as early partisans as well)
- Yugoslavian partisans with mules 1941-45 (worn & mixed uniforms, but distinctively yugoslavian)
As above, a few accompanying Axis sets (offering a wider range of possible uses) could probably generate a broader appeal (just as a fresh set of Australians imho would).
- Italian regular infantry & Bersaglieri rifle squads with support weapons
- Alpini with support weapons & light artillery crews (summer/winter)
- Gebirgsjäger support weapons & light artillery crew (early war, summer)
- Kradschützen, mounted/dismounted in distinctive gear & poses (summer)
Strelets upcoming FFL Canon de 65mm de montagne could already serve for Greek mountain artillery... . :wink: :+1:

Dear friends, keep dreaming about the sets you wish for so that Strelets will be able to keep em coming! :smile:


"Kradschützen Truppen motorcycle troops were motorized, lightly armed and highly mobile infantry units of the German Wehrmacht and Waffen SS, usually incorporated into the Panzer Divisions."

(definition courtesy of 9th SS Hohenstaufen re-enactment group website)

Much though I support new sets, I do wonder whether Strelets would wish to approach this subject when perfectly good m/c combinations have been produced already by Zvezda, and adequate ones by HaT and Italeri. And with so many German troops already available in 1/72, a little inventiveness and some modelling ingenuity should allow foot Kradschutzen troopers to be converted readily from available figures.

Indeed, when in stock Plastic Soldier Company will sell you an 11 vehicle Kradschutzen platoon for £32...that should be enough on the tabletop to seize a bridge or two.

For Strelets to add to this list they would need to be confident in the tricky task of modelling and producing a motorcycle and sidecar, not easy.

Many of the others on this wish list are already made in metal by Early War Miniatures. Anyone with a liking for troops mounted on motorcycles might wish to look at the range and variety of their Bersaglieri....enough bikes there to raise a substantial dust cloud.

EWM also do Poles, Greeks, but perhaps not Yugoslavs. Well, not yet.:grimacing:

Re: Early WW2 subjects

Some Vichy French, and some Yeomanry Cavalry to fight them in Syria!

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I agree that we've got to be a bit more realistic. My boiled down list would be BEF, Dutch infantry, Greeks and, self indulgent, French motorcycle troops as they look so distinctive - no need to include the motorcycles.

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Graham, I like your suggestion of the French troops, I think they may be referred to as "Motorised troops" with the tank crew helmet with leather buffer at front. Very distinctive, I have an original example (without badge from WW2)… and stylish if I may say so! The heads could also be good for conversion for say Polish tank crew who also used variations of the helmet up to and including the 1939 campaign.

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Kim Crankshaw
Graham, I like your suggestion of the French troops, I think they may be referred to as "Motorised troops" with the tank crew helmet with leather buffer at front. Very distinctive, I have an original example (without badge from WW2)… and stylish if I may say so! The heads could also be good for conversion for say Polish tank crew who also used variations of the helmet up to and including the 1939 campaign.
Yes, I also agree; would be a useful set which I for one would be more likely to buy than, say, Yugoslav Partisan combat engineers....and that is not meant with any undue disrespect to those fine and valiant fellows. It's just that I happen to have a 1940 French army that could do with some more good motorised infantry figures.....

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As mentioned before, in recent years the 1940 Battle of France/Westfeldzug became one of my WWII focus areas again. Reading here & other hobby-forums clearly indicates increasing interest & demand for this specific theatre.
Like many 1/72 manufacturers, Strelets arranges most of its output into subdivisions of self-contained ranges with clever combinations of coherent subjects.
Just as impressively proven with their current WWII ranges (North African/Mediterranean and Pacific/Far East), I'm optimistic that Strelets holds sufficient capacity to accomplish this (& potentially other) WWII theatres in the long run.

So, not only for the further stimulation of my newfound devotee, again a very short compilation of theatre-relevant suggestions.

Fall Gelb/Battle of France 1940
- Dutch infantry with support weapons
- French infantry with support weapons
- French light/medium artillery, AA & AT crews
- French mounted/dismounted motorised Dragoons
- Fallschirmjäger with support weapons (early war)
- Kradschützen, mounted/dismounted, distinctive gear & poses ("summer" dress, early war)
- German Pioniere overcoming obstacles & in combat (summer dress, early war & plenty of bridge work to do)
- Belgian infantry & Chasseurs Ardennais
- French Chasseurs Alpins

Campagna del Nordafrica/North African campaign 1940-43
- Italian regular infantry & Bersaglieri rifle squads & support weapons
- Italian light/medium artillery, AT & AA crews
- Afrika Korps light/medium artillery, AT & AA crews
- Commonwealth/British artillery, AT & AA crews
- Italian, DAK & Commonwealth/British Engineers overcoming obstacles & in combat
- French Colonial Troops (Tirailleurs, Goumiers, Spahis)

2nd Sino-Japanese War/Pacific/Far East 1937-45
- Dutch KNIL infantry
- Japanese Special Naval Landing Forces
- Chinese infantry & support weapons in summer/winter gear (different factions & uniforms)
- Japanese, Chinese & Commonwealth supply/mule trains
- Japanese & Chinese mounted/dismounted cavalry summer/winter
- Commonwealth infantry & support weapons (more distinctively looking Indian troops e.g.)

:wink: :laughing:


Seriously, I'm certainly not the only one keenly interested to read what suggestions other enthusiasts have to contribute? :slightly_smiling_face:

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Dear Peter the Great (as a devotee of the Russian monarch and owner of a Russian GNW army I have always wished to write that!!!),

Your lists are comprehensive, impressive, and very long indeed. If I were at Strelets I would have much food for thought here.

A morsel from my meagre brain: I completely agree with your suggestions re: AA/AT gun crews. These are always useful and so rarely modelled in 1/72 plastic, although this position has become a little better in recent years.

Ditto, vehicle crews and soldiers in transit, lorry/half track passengers etc. These would, in my view, be especially useful for the 1940 'Blitzkrieg' and the western Desert (1940/43).

Kradschutzen?: I have already offered my view.

I will now humbly return to my serfdom....

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I am sure the good people at Strelets will be quite interested to see what we have been discussing and suggesting for future possible sets. Compared to the "old days" where manufacturers probably did not take into account what was in demand other than "the usual suspects" eg basic German WW2 figures and the odd token opposition troops. Although at times some subjects can be a little "overdone" thinking of the range of both 1/72 and 1/35 scale German WW2 as examples... almost done to death and I sometimes wonder if there will be a set of German infantrymen brushing their teeth and combing their hair, as there has been so many variations on a theme over many years! ... and no I don't think there is a need for such a set !

So here's to Strelets approach of producing not just interesting sets, with fabulous animation but variations on the subject matter - look at the range of Allied troops made so far, New Zealand, Sth African, Indian, French Foreign Legion, 8th Army, Early American and looks like the LRDG coming soon (I can't wait...) then the range of Japanese subjects recently. So let's hope Strelets have lots of ideas from us (without too much pressure of course) to keep them busy and in business for many years to come.