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Re: poses

Depends on the era you're focusing on.

Early to late modern period wars (including the currently discussed Kabinettskriege) require a good balance of (in order of priority):
1.) marching
2.) advancing/attacking
3.) firing line

For cavalry the priority order should be:
1.) moving
2.) waiting
3.) attacking/in action


Early industrial warfare requires a slightly different prioritisation:
1.) advancing/attacking
2.) marching/running (partially)
3.) firing/skirmishing

Cavalry as above.

Mid to late industrial warfare then again calls for another priority order:
1.) (observantly) advancing/running & taking cover
2.) firing/observing (more crouching or kneeling positions than upright ones)
3.) waiting/marching

No or little Cavalry from here on. But if, then like above.

Artillery crews should ideally be:
1.) handling the gun/firing
2.) on the move/preparing or changing gun position


The priority order is of course completely different when it comes to pre firearm-dominance eras: medieval or ancient warfare, but also for the Renaissance mercenary armies during the european wars of religion ...

Re: poses

Infantry
1. marching
2. attacking + firing
3. standing at ease
4. advancing
5. standing shoulder arms

Cavalry
1. advancing/moving
2. standing
3. attacking/ in action

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I like all poses in one set. If I want of a particular pose, I buy that many more sets. I actually bought 70 sets of Airfix U.S. Cavalry in Medium Blue color especially for (1) the Casualty Horse pose and (2) the Riding Casualty pose. I wanted them for a Custers Last Stand Playset and also the Medium Blue matches Perfectly with Strelets U.S. Cavalry set. I bought 12 of that set just for the Indian Scout pose to make a set of 12 conversions, all Apache Scouts.

I'd like to add casualty poses to the list. Both Infantry and Cavalry.

I still buy Airfix sets when they come out in new colors. Especially because they include casualties. For example the WWI German Infantry has a great casuality pose. And the U.S. Cavalry Western set has a magnificent casualty pose.

I never buy more than one set of marching poses, and rarely buy marching at all. But I buy many of action sets and sets with casualties.

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For line infantry I prefer attack march, firing, loading and then advancing poses.
For light infantry I prefer standing and firing, kneeling and firing, loading and crouching advance or running poses.
Heavy cavalry I prefer charging and advancing sword at the shoulder
For light cavalry(hussars and chasseurs) I prefer standing poses with sword shouldered or scabbarded and riders handling carbines(shooting or at the ready), since their duty was primarily scouting.
Lancers I would like to see with lance upright while trotting and lances levelled while attacking, supported by poses wielding their sabres.
Artillery I would like to see firing and reloading as well as on the march either on foot or on horseback.
If Strelets does not know how to add in particular interesting Napoleonic sets to their range, this thread is full of suggestions.

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"March Attack" is 0ne of those annoying terms that have become a tradition in this hobby since the early 1970's and the advent of typed price lists from Minifigs (still called Miniature Figures back then), and doesn't appear in contemporary drill manuals.

https://rodwargaming.wordpress.com/miltary-historical-research/military-historical-research/napoleonic-infantry-march-rates/

However, it's perfectly valid pose - more properly called 'Support Arms' and used to give the arm carrying the ten pound musket some relief from the weight carrying it at the shoulder on the march (been there, done that)/ In an attack, the front rank has the musket lowered - 'charge bayonets' while the second rank carries at the High Port.

I like my cavalry maneuvering at the trot, the same way most of them did, most of the time; flat out gallop waving swords was only for the last few yards prior to contact so these guys are not so useful.

Gunners can be active or not: usually one man is moving while carrying out part of the drill while the others are stood to, watching for hazards. What i really hate is gun crews that have one or two men in front of the muzzle loading the piece while another moves the wheels or trail and a third tries to blow his comrades up by firing the gun!

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For musket era and Napoleonics, marching, for sure.

Cavalry I like stood or walk, sabres at rest against the body, lances upright.

Troops for these periods need to be ranked up into units, and we see far to much melodramatics in figure poses.

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Poses , one of my great frustrations in our hobby, a set of figures should work as.....a set , so some real examples , of not working Redbox Jacobite's British infantry a firing pose but no loading poses, can you make a firing line ? no , one Grenadier ? I would rather have a Grenadier set, or grenadier heads to convert with. Highland infantry a loading pose, but no firing pose ! . WW2 3in Mortar crews with two poses , gun crews with four, etc etc etc , on the plus side some of the sets ie Marching, at ease etc remedy this, but if the subject needs a big set or more than one set etc, make it we will buy good figures,we always have. Rant over :-)

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Very much agree. Worth a rant I'd say

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Edwardian
Very much agree. Worth a rant I'd say
A rant, you say?

I'd suggest a politely worded and sensible set of preferences.

At any rate, it covers my opinions as well. Can I add artillery limbers/caissons where the horses are standing still or, at most, walking slowly rather than galloping?

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No, a rant Mr Buckingham said.

But you knew that.

Re: poses

Thank you very much everyone for your opinions. It is good to have different points of view of people with something in common "we love this hobby.
I personally in the infantry (from the musket era) I like moving forward with the bayonet openwork prepared for the fight and then firing, marching I like it less although I recognize that for the time it is practically obligatory. Knee soldiers do not like anything.
In cavalry I like to load with outstretched arms.
I agree that a set should be a set and in my modest opinion it should cover the following:
(it was musket)
Fire line
Moving forward - attacking
marching
Controls (Officers, flags and musicians)
As an example one of my favorite sets. Zvezda Swedes in the Great Northern War (irrelevant grenadiers).

Have a nice day

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i hate poses where head is right and left side and looks like 4 figures looking right side like

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In Napoleonics my favourite infantry pose is advancing with charged bayonet; I also like standing firing and loading, in equal numbers for a decent firing line. The most important thing with Napoleonics is to have groups of figures doing the same thing at the same time. I'm not so keen on marching figures but I understand that the gamers who want them are a big market and manufacturers will want to cater to them. I can use the marching figures to fill in rear ranks but I prefer action figs. That's why separate action and marching sets are great, we can all get what we want. I don't really get standing sets. If the sculpting's really good and the command figures are really nice I might buy a box but standing figures don't really grab me.

For Napoleonic cavalry I like figures to be galloping around like maniacs waving their swords in the air, that's what cavalry's for. Even better is figures giving point, those poses in the Italeri Life Guards and Guard Chasseurs a Cheval are the best cavalry figures ever. Again, I understand that the gamers want a lot of the "Ain't I Pretty" pose and, again, they are handy for rear ranks.

For things like Celts I want lots of figures charging and lots of different poses to emphasise the wild disorganised look. Same goes for Jacobites to an extent, lots of charging figures required. But I do like the way that the Strelets sets had a mix of figures with swords, firearms and Lochaber axes. Realistically there's probably too many swords and not enough dirks and axes but I like to see highlanders with broadsword and target and I suspect that's the way most folks like to see them so great job Strelets!

This is the Strelets site so I have to mention my favourite Strelets poses, it's these ones:



Strelets make great personality figures. I have modified some to get just the figure I want but to do that you need good figures in the first place.

Re: poses

Joaquin Los
What are your favorite poses (in general)

Advancing-attacking
shooting up
marching (gun to shoulder)
other

And in the horses
stopped
jogging
galloping-charging

saludos.
It's good also for me.

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Firing and loading I find useful in limited numbers for skirmishing. Otherwise the're a pain if you want troops in column.

Any infantry pose that does not work in a rear rank is a difficulty. Marching is best, but I'll take standing.

Standing is, I suggest, what cavalry spend a lot of time doing on the battlefield. Walk or trot is fine. Galloping poses are not much use, I find, though you don't always get a choice.