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Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

Beautiful indeed !

Thank you STRELETS !

Can't wait to see them in attack.

Patrice

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

Pat Sheuck
Beautiful indeed !

Thank you STRELETS !

Can't wait to see them in attack.

Patrice
I hope to see they in attacco formation...very good job Strelets.

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

Really, gentlemen?

Compare these figures to the masters. A real letdown. Don't you recognize quality? Do you have praise for everything?

:angry:

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

I have to agree with opinion the moulding isn't as crisp as in the earlier pictures & I thought the last Highlanders set picture was the same.
I am hoping its just a poor quality picture that's making them look not so good

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

You'd be wrong there. Just as the Poles in attack look a bit ordinary in the photos, but are superb in the flesh (plastic) and paint up beautifully.

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

Well, well... But why post such awful photos when your figures are that great? :wink:

Ok, it's not my intention to prejudge. Unfortunately, due to the quality of those photos, I'm obliged to order no more than one set instead of the many sets I had ordered if the quality of the photos had proved that the figures are as impeccable as you want them to be ... But even so ... your expectations may not match mine ... :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

Not being a painter, the color quality is essential for me to buy any set. Strelets Crimean War sets in Terracotta Red (British) and Green (Russians) are the best color quality in a nice flat, deep color. No light gets through them holding them up or near a light or just plain sitting there. Poor quality plastic or a mixture of color pellets to clear plastic before production results in a set that looks shiny, waxy, or like semi-transparent ice cubes (with all due respect).

Pictures don't lie. Some sets look semi-transparent in the Teasers, then I also will buy only one box to check out before investing in 10 boxes.

There is another famous 1/72 company who recently released reissue sets and they suffer worse of this transparency. Too bad. I'll never order sight-unseen like that again. A nice, deep, flat color plastic easily shows good sculpting details. Shiny, waxy plastic doesn't.

I'm happy as a clam at high tide with Strelets recent FFL/RIF War and Boer Wars sets. I even went back and reordered more of each set just to have extras for future projects.

If someone paints their figures, then I suppose color choice or color quality wouldn't matter, but there are many customers who don't paint, so I'll always care about color quality. There are plenty of non-painters otherwise Conte Collectibles, Marx, Airfix, Armies in Plastic, RedBox, Orion, just to name a few, wouldn't release sets in multiple colors. I've gone back and reordered all over again just to have this variety. Just because someone doesn't paint their figures doesn't mean color isn't important. In fact, color choice and color quality is most important for non-painting customers.

The latest Teaser pictures of Masters are all awesome; but some of the figures from production Teaser pictures are not the same superior look.

Please keep up the good plastic used in your ACW, Romans, Colonial Wars, FFL, RIF War and hopefully the new War of the Spanish Succession.

Anyway, this isn't anything that hasn't been discussed to death before, but I have always appreciated the way the Strelets Team has given us all a reason to buy their figures - mine being especially color quality!

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

Garrison, as you say, your key point has been well-made previously. Several years ago, it was your good self, if I recall correctly, who highlighted the importance of colour to non-painters and, with others, that the sales to non-painters dwarf those of 'them what paint'. As the colour does not matter at all if one is going to slap on (often) layers of paint, then production to suit those for whom colour matters makes supreme sense.

The lighting and background in the photos of the previews makes a huge difference (as it does with all photography). Compare and contrast these, for example:
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=276&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=273&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=194&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=99&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=98&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=95&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=89&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=87&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=192&M=F

All of the figures from these sets look much better in the 'flesh', in the hand and in natural lighting.

It is, of course, why good photography takes time and effort with the set-up--I have seen it done but am certainly not an exponent. It's also why people often put a wash over the figures before photographing them and why those who paint will often find 'hidden' detail that becomes evident once the figures have been undercoated.

It ain't anything new to note that photos can and do mislead.

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

James Fisher
Garrison, as you say, your key point has been well-made previously. Several years ago, it was your good self, if I recall correctly, who highlighted the importance of colour to non-painters and, with others, that the sales to non-painters dwarf those of \'them what paint\'. As the colour does not matter at all if one is going to slap on (often) layers of paint, then production to suit those for whom colour matters makes supreme sense.

The lighting and background in the photos of the previews makes a huge difference (as it does with all photography). Compare and contrast these, for example:
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=276&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=273&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=194&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=99&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=98&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=95&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=89&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=87&M=F
http://www.strelets-r.com/Pages/Set.aspx?SetID=192&M=F

All of the figures from these sets look much better in the \'flesh\', in the hand and in natural lighting.

It is, of course, why good photography takes time and effort with the set-up--I have seen it done but am certainly not an exponent. It\'s also why people often put a wash over the figures before photographing them and why those who paint will often find \'hidden\' detail that becomes evident once the figures have been undercoated.

It ain\'t anything new to note that photos can and do mislead.
James Fisher, ?

Like noses...everyone has one

James Fisher
You'd be wrong there. Just as the Poles in attack look a bit ordinary in the photos, but are superb in the flesh (plastic) and paint up beautifully.
People are entitled to their opinion. My opinion thinks these figures are fine and fill a gap. I'd prefer an advancing pose, but will happily buy several of these and wait for Strelets to make new sets.

An additional opinion, & one that I don't think will be popular, is I don't really love the Zvesda Nap. Russians. I certainly have several sets of their various Russian troops but I find them a bit large & their animation a bit over the top.

I'm a wargamer & not a dioramist but feel free to make smug pronouncements on my taste.

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

Hi,
The pictures are bad but the figures look good to me especially when I paint and mix them into big battalions.
Cheers
CPN

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

CPN
Hi,
The pictures are bad but the figures look good to me especially when I paint and mix them into big battalions.
Cheers
CPN
Or small battalions.

One issue I have is post-1812, many Russian infantry battalions were worn down & quite understrength. During the Campaigns of 1813 & 1814, replacements were hard to come by: more often new battalions were sent.

Thus, a typical Strelets' set, needing a command stand per battalion, will have a lot of leaderless troops ie figures I'll need to find officer/musician/ensign/NCO for.

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

Hi,
Completely agree, campaigns of 1813 and more 1814 found Russian regiment reduced to one battalions instead of 2 or 3.
This is where I will try to get individual command box from Zvesda, or convert some figures from sets from Esci.
Cheers
CPN

Re: Russian Infantry on the March 1

CPN
Hi,
Completely agree, campaigns of 1813 and more 1814 found Russian regiment reduced to one battalions instead of 2 or 3.
This is where I will try to get individual command box from Zvesda, or convert some figures from sets from Esci.
Cheers
CPN
Thanks for the possible solutions. I'll have to wait to see if the Zvesda figures will not be too jarring. The Esci may work. I might have to look at some of the metals in 20mm too.

Pity Strelets couldn't sell special boxes with just the command sprues. I'd pay a premium for those.