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First of all congratulations strelets, the 3 boxes are indeed a very appealing and nice product in a very interesting and epic historical event (even if i found somehow tricky the small differences bewteen special sprues in Saxon army and stamford bridge..)
What i miss is , or my suggestions are, as same as there was an Norman Camp, another saxon or viking camp with more relaxed poses, drinking and so on, vikings looting.. Mybe even some viking or norman seamen, boarding or unboarding ships
Saxon army in the march are also missing...they had to go from south to northern border and again back south in few weeks!
War council is a nice Suggestion.
Thanks again anyway strelets for the effort and for asking still furthermore
"will first three be somehow different from those, that are available already?"
That depends on how different you want to make them! Fulford could include the Northumbrian General Levy, Hereward though Is a long shot but could be a rebel, outlaw and civilian set ... Edwin and Morkere were pivotal to the events of 1066 and long after... for a short overview see:
Edwin and Morcar in 1066
Revolt in the North:
Rise of Edwin and Morcar, Ill-fated Earls
"We also thought about mounted Saxons and Vikings but found no reasonable use for
A large number of the English would have been mounted, no army could have travelled the distances that Harold did in the time he did without a large number of horses..
So an English Army on the March, forget the ox wagons too slow, include pack horses not mules... Pre battle mounted, Parley, persuing an enemy mounted, fleeing from an enemy mounted, scouting, messengers... even Raiding...
Vikings.. or the Norse would aquire horses as quickly as possible for travel, foraging, scouting, raiding etc as well...
"We were thinking along some more non trivial subjects, yet within the mainstream of the conquest event, say:
- Doomsday Book
- War council before the battle
- Allegiance oath of Saxon noblemen
- Royal feast
All in Big Box format."
Doomsday book and Allegiance may well be very similar..
Royal feast? not sure the English had anything to be particularly happy about..
The best idea is the War Council which could include an Allegience scenario(Edwin and Morkere/Harold, Harold/William, Edwin and Morkere/William are all possible) and a mounted parley with the enemy...
Well, since you won't do mtd Saxons & Vikings, I guess all that is left is casualties, mostly for Vikings & Saxons, but some Normans. Maybe figs for William & others examining Harald's body? Retreating wounded like your Charge of the Light Brigade set.
I also bought your big box sets.they are great ! Did you think of covering Norman conquest of Italy?Plese consider making new sets of Normans and they foes.. Byzantines....of this period
I think you have covered 1066 very well and there are no potential big sellers left. To be honest I didn't find your suggestions very appealing. How many sets would someone buy of the compilation of the Domesday book? I'm finding it hard to imagine what poses you would include. I think there is one area where you could produce something that could be used for 1066 but would be more generic and that would be medieval villagers for approximately 800 AD to 1100 AD. You could do half involved in day to day activities and half suffering a raid and trying to defend their homes with farm implement weapons. I note that some of the figures in your Norman Camp set seem to reflect the Norman harrying of civilians, perhaps in and around Pevensey when they first landed or the harrying of the North after Hastings. You could expand on that. I think the set might sell well as it would have broader applications than just 1066 and could take us right back to the days of Alfred the Great.
I wonder if going back a couple of hundred years to the time of Alfred the Great would be a good next step. Perhaps a set of the normal fyrd which I think is lacking. We need a lot more completely unarmoured figures (helmet at most)using spears and axes and improvised weapons. These could be used for so many different armies, including the Anglo-Saxons at Stamford Bridge, Hastings, Hereward the Wake's guerrillas. Another possible area of expansion could be Irish, Scots and Pictish Dark Age figures, all of whom looked quite distinctive with their garb and equipment compared to Anglo-Saxons and Vikings who despite TV and Hollywood differentiation actually looked very, very similar.
Last point (sorry for the long post) I would also like to support Jerzy's request for Byzantine troops. We already have Muslim soldiers and if you were to add a range of Byzantines then Italy and Sicily could be gamed and this would expand the scope of your Norman ranges.
i agree with both Graham and Jerzy.
the big box sets sold so well not only because of the subject,but also because the new and old figures were so good.
you have a very good and detailed range of normans,why not expand on it? the norman conquest of italy and sicily for example. the normans pretty much conquered the balkans before retreating back.the bretons of brittany had a go at the normans before 1066.
theres the battle of clontarf in ireland for expanding on the vikings figures.
Alfred the great was already mentioned as well.
too many new things to get into than to look for some sort of set of normans doing something or other.
A casualty set, done imaginatively it could work for all three armies, no battlefield is complete without them
Civilians! Got the WAB Shieldwall supplement, and the campaign calls for a number of farmers and servants, women and children, but can't find much in this scale. The Norman train has a few, but not nearly enough to make a moderately sized group of civilians. You could make it a big set with some Vikings to make it a "raze the village" type of box, group of civilians, group of raiders and some militia types. The Vikings got the least stuff from the big boxes when it comes to quantity :)
Specialist shield wall set.
Could come with alternative heads, shields and weapons to construct a shield wall for any army of the period.
Would also complement HaT's El Cid Spaniards, which do not contain any figures suitable for a shield wall.
Possibly castle siege sets, including defenders (firing downwards) and a selection of animals to catapult over the wall.
Saxon army on the march needs mounted nobles.
Not sure about more sets for norman conquest.
But what about improving the crusader range?
HQ Crusaders (English/French/German/Austrian, Italian)
HQ Military Orders
Crusaders on march (foot/horse)
Military Order Warriors on march (foot/horse)
Saracens on march (foot/horse)
Saracen siege equipment
Saracen supply train
i know the normans had trouble with a lombard revolt while away in the balkans fighting the byzantines.how different would the lombards look as opposed to the normans?
Certainly now that Bernard Cornwall's 'Lost Kingdom' seies has been televised. Saxons vs Danes should be considered. Certainly Afred his daughter Aethelflaed- the Lady of Mercia and his grandson Ethelstan have great potential. the great advantage of the so called dark ages is that armies of the combatants were not a large as in later periods.
As Graham Korn commented on the fryd is essential but like others commented mounted troops were also very common