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if you go to Redbox homepage you can see the new English sailors and Turkish sailor artillery many cannons nice what about some spanish sailors
Very nice. A lot of working poses. They all look a bit slim and flat but it's difficult to actually qualify the figures in terms of proportions, anatomy and historical accuracy from those pics. They look as if they were suitable for conversions, too. So let's wait and see. (@ Tommy: Spanish sailors looked quite similar...they didn't usually wear morions when at work... )
Not too excited so far, I hope they do more sets of English sailors with some more combat poses.
They have announced English sailors in battle and English naval artillery as well. What else do you want? As for my part, I'm happy to finally see some working sailors. That's what is needed if you want to man ships. And if you don't want to build ships, well, then you don't need any sailors, you could equally well use any 16th or 17th century infantry or artillery sets...
Didn't see the announcement of additional sets of English sailors but having seen them, they are exactly what I want. Now I'm getting excited. Need to dig out my Airfix Golden Hind.
PS: In case you want to buy the Mayflower on eBay or so, make sure it's actually the bigger version of the ship. Ask the seller. Total length is about 20" or 50,8cm (the hull length including the galion is about 40cm).
I found some interesting DShips in the shipyard section here including a Mediterranean Dhow.
Just dusted my Revell mayflower which I've 'launched' twenty years ago. Seems to be the larger one. Lenght over all is 49-50 centimeters. The crew figures stand 22mm 'tall' (no bases, feet on deck). Compared to average 1/72 scale figures, they still look more tiny than 1/76. Guess it rather might be 1/80.
With 1/72 figures on board, standing on their bases, too, the railing is looking fairly low.
Revell also made the (in)famous big and expensive 'Spanish Galleon' and 'English Man O'War' models. Scale officially 1/96 but 1/72 figures match well. But these ships are just generic and (30 years ago)meant to be more a decorative furniture than a painstakingly constructed replica. Especially the masts are far too high. Without the upper sails (top gallants)the overall shape will improve.
BTW: Hope the old Revell Conquistadores will match their new RedBox mates.
You all should think BIGGER!
How about this vessel? Row row row Your boat!
Check the thread "Turkish sailors!" below...
You are right. Revell’s Spanish Galleon is Disney’s castle afloat. The new box art deceives the buyer. But there are just few plastic model kits available, if you want a vessel from the 16th century in nearly 1/72. (I tried to convert Revell’s Spanish Galleon by altering the masts, shortening the gallion (and the stem), reducing the superstructure (poop deck) by one storey and removing the upper balcony. But that still is more ease the pain rather than a cure. So I didn’t finish that major surgery yet.
On the other hand, some war gamers prefer straight out of the box gaming to extreme modeling (and use unpainted figures). In that case matching scale and easy assembly might be sufficient. Even then, there’s a very exclusive club of vessels available: the Airfix Golden Hind, the oop IMAI/ERTL Golden Hind, the big Revell/Heller Mayflower and the ‘ fictitious fantasy’ Revell Spanish Galleon/English Man O’War caricatures. IMAI’s chebec IMHO is rather 18th century.
Right again, all these are best guesses to reconstruct a generic ship, since no original, even plan did survive. Also most 16th/17th century artists were no sailors themselves and could misapprehend dimensions or details. (Some of the few seadogs was the Dutch artist Zeeman). Personally I visited some of the few survivers like the Vasa, the Victory and the Bremen cog. The latter BTW featured planks running from port to starboard, not lenghthwise as usual. (Zvezda hasn’t noticed that…)
Using the gun port sizes as a lead is a clever idea!
Another way may be scaling up paper craft models. I’ll try that soon. Shipyard does some very decent ones. Like the Revenge (1/96):
Here’s a work in progress pic which I found in a paper modeler’s forum: