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Future Ultima Ratio and Redbox

Saw this on VK:
Ultima Ratio
002 WW2 Soviet mountain troops ___Battle for Mount Elbrus
003 WW2 Soviet&polish infantry_____Battles in Pomerania and East Prussia
004 Russian invasion of Afghanistan 1979-1989 Soviet motorized infantry & Spetsnaz

RadBox
72078 Turkish Sailors 16-17 centry
72079 Turkish Sailors in Battle 16-17 centry
72080 Turkish Sailors Artillery 16-17 centry
72081 English Sailors 16-17 centry
72082 English Sailors in Battle 16-17 centry
72083 English Sailors Artillery 16-17 centry
72084 European Light Cavalry. 16 centry. Set 1
72085 European Light Cavalry. 16 centry. Set 2
72086 Russian War Monk 16-17 centry
72087 Russian War Monk Artillery 16-17 centry
72088 Osman Eyalet Infantry 16-17 century
72089 Osman Yeniceri Infantry 16-17 century

I am most interested on only the English Sailors. I hope they do Spanish sailors to fight them.

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Arlin
I am most interested on only the English Sailors. I hope they do Spanish sailors to fight them.


What do you mean? In the 16th and early 17th centuries there were no uniforms. Attire was essentially civilian and quite universal for both officers and crew - be they English, Dutch, French, or Spanish - as contemporary paintings and engravings prove. Can't really recognize noticeable differences of dress among the various nationals. You recognized them e.g. by the colour of sashes and the like, or the ship's banners, and by their respective languages, of course.

What's more important to me is that we get sailors indeed, not more "pirates" disguised as sailors. I finally want to see working parties, sailors in the shrouds, handling sails and ropes, heaving up anchors, rowing boats, etc., etc. In short, actual crews that could be used to man ships, not another bunch of "pirates" gesturing wildly with pistols and rattling sabres...We've really had enough of that stuff.


Here's the link:

http://vk.com/club7879149

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Well, what I mean is I want lots of Morion helmets, accurate or not. If there are, then I am happy with making them Spanish.

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Fine, Morions were used by the English as well... Officers and soldiers aboard used them, but not usually the sailors, logically, as they went unarmoured...

As Red Box promised us three sets: English sailors, English sailors in battle, and English sailors artillery, I sincerely hope that the first one, at least, will contain sailors at work only, and nothing else but working sailors...

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Arlin
Saw this on VK:
Ultima Ratio
002 WW2 Soviet mountain troops ___Battle for Mount Elbrus
003 WW2 Soviet&polish infantry_____Battles in Pomerania and East Prussia
004 Russian invasion of Afghanistan 1979-1989 Soviet motorized infantry & Spetsnatz
I like the sound of the Ultima Ratio stuff, especially the modern; something a bit different, isn't it.

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I agree, PDA. All 3 Ultima Ratio sets are of interest to me.

Their Taliban/Mujahideen set was excellent.

Cheers,
Andrew

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are russian war monks streletsi,or are they something else?

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The English sailor sets look interesting. nothing else floating my boat (pun intended). Disappointed no new Jacobite stuff, or WW2 Japanese, after their superb aviator sets I had hoped for Artillery/heavy weapons etc.

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Most interesting and unusual subjects! Yes the UR Mujahedin was a nice set, so looking forward to their Soviet adverseries too.
And Redbox...keep them 16-17th century sets coming! And when you are done with that era, perhaps dive in to the War of Spanish Succession??? :D

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Russian monks are different then Strelets but I expected Muscovit early guners,too...

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Arlin;
Nothing about new Alliance?

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Nothing was listed

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Thanks!

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English sailors look interesting - finally a crew fro my Airfix Golden Hind. I hope RB's renaissance foray stretches to English types like bill and bow, border horse and demilances - their medieval Irish could still be used in late Tudor times.

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http://cheapfantasyminis.blogspot.com/ for Dec. 11th shows a partial sprue of a new set of heavily armored Chaos Warrior/Death Dealer type barbarians and a single figure shot of a more fully armored Amazon in scale male with a greatsword. She looks more Nordic than the earlier Grecian Amazons.

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Good times for all the collectors of other stuff than 20th century European infantry out there.

Will have a close look at which set might fill the ranks of my "Boxer Rebellion" Imperial troops - maybe the Ottoman artillery could double.

The WW2 sets sound interesting as well. Regards, Pa

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The Redbox pics on Миниатюры 1/72 site look like Russian War monks, then on the right -top to bottom -Turkish sailors in battle, Turkish janissaries(yeniçeri), English sailors in battle.
The English sailors look more like 16th century though some may do for early 17th century. Fashions change quite considerably in the 17th century but working clothes like simplified doublets outlasted most of their owners and were often recycled and slightly modified. The paintings by 17th c Dutch artists of maritime scenes are excellent reference material. The captain looks more characteristically Elizabethan and would be a bit of a Don Quixote if he dressed like that in the mid 17th c.

David