Strelets Forum

Welcome to the Strelets Forum.
Please feel free to discuss any aspect of 1/72 scale plastic figures, not simply Strelets.
If you have any questions about our products then we will answer them here.

Strelets Forum
This Forum is Locked
Author
Comment
View Entire Thread
Just for fun: Old English Fanfare ;-)
Re: Waterloo 1815 Cromwell's cavalry

watchdog
Available now but, in my opinion, quite disappointing. Only 4 poses, the trumpet looks not very much like a 17th century natural trumpet. Strange horse poses, none of them standing or trotting. Weird horse furniture: saddle bags, western saddles, odd saddle cloths, etc. Arrgghh! Well, nevertheless, I'll buy a few boxes, just for conversion. When will ACTA finally come to their senses and release their 1/32 ECW cavalry in 1/72 ?!

I agree - the pre-production shots were even more alarming - the corselet armour and sword hilts are lifted straight off French cuiraisiers, never seen anything like the saddle bags in any illustration I have seen. The saddles could be okay - I've seen pictures of 17thC great saddles and they do look a bit like western, and the trumpets and cornets are okay ish, especially because they're a seperate arm. But the one cockup that makes me smile is the helmets.

They've been modelled as triple-barred pots (the triple bar is the visor) which generally can be raised. However the skull has been re-inforced with metal bars so you can't raise the visor if you want to. The re-inforcement is more normally found on single barred pots, or zischagge pots which don't have a raisable visor.

Re: Waterloo 1815 Cromwell's cavalry

Well, the trumpet (the instrument) is really far from okay (see link above for a real 17th century trumpet; here a link to another period trumpet: http://trumpetmaker.yolasite.com/birckholtz---trumpet.php ; those used in England were of exactly the same type), and the same is true of the trumpeter. He is equipped like an ordinary harquebusier/ironside trooper but I would expect special costume such as a cassock, preferably with hanging sleeves, and a hat, even with parliamentary cavalry, definitely no carbine. Equally, the cornet should wear officer's dress. And the appearance of the saddle is really quite far from any TYW or ECW period saddle I have ever seen. I cannot remember any such saddles from contemporary illustrations, nor do I know of any extant original.

Re: Waterloo 1815 Cromwell's cavalry

Steve Pickstock
But the one cockup that makes me smile is the helmets.

They've been modelled as triple-barred pots (the triple bar is the visor) which generally can be raised. However the skull has been re-inforced with metal bars so you can't raise the visor if you want to. The re-inforcement is more normally found on single barred pots, or zischagge pots which don't have a raisable visor.


Are you sure that the helmets have triple bar visors? Actually, the masters do show single barred pots, as far as I can see (scroll down):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37119735@N07/sets/72157638309589246/

I don't know to what extent Zischagge pots were used in the ECW but clearly some were used, and they were fairly common in the later years of the TYW, of course.

Re: Waterloo 1815 Cromwell\'s cavalry

I can only say I my defence that when I first saw the pictures they looked like triple barred pots.

But on the other hand you're also right - zischagge were about but not in those kind of numbers.

The trumpeter should - you are correct - look more like the Revell figure but having him with a seperate arm means the trumpet itself is less of a problem as the figure can be used for other things.