Yes, I fear these poor fellows are going to see a lot of combat! 1812 Canada, Battle of New Orleans, Alamo, Battle of Wabash, Battle of Fallen Timbers, and who knows where else on my American frontier. Sure would be nice to have some mohawked woodland Indians as adversaries(ah geez! there I go again! You give a mouse a cookie.....).

Arlin, you only enquired about these the other day and Strelets have delivered an update!

Looking forward to these and the Brits part II come September.

James

Strelets,

Great looking set ... as a matter of fact, so are the Brits x2 and the French sled sets. Let's see if the reds can burn down the White House again to avenge Fort York.

Please consider mounted Kentucky Mounted Infantry, US regular Infantry/artillery/cavalry, Canadian Voltigeurs (most other Canadian militia wore more or less British uniforms), Indians, command (Brock, Harrison, Tecumsuh and Winfield Scott would be great as mounted personalities) and civilian sets.

Have a great day, Frank

I too hope to see this range expanded to include Franks excellent suggestions. Thank you Strelets for your already great sets!

This does indeed looks like an interesting set with a lot of potential. I am sure that American militia 2 would be in order

Would need to have some Royal Marines as well if you want to model the burning of what became the White House. Interesting that it was only public buildings that were torched (although according to US marine history their barracks were left along due to professional courtesy by the Royal Marines!). You could have one marine with a torch ready to set fire to something.

Yes there are the HaT combined set of sailors, gunners and marines but it spreads RN subjects too thinly. Amphibious operations were a notable feature of this war and for use with the European conflicts.

Yes Strelet a great start to this subject which is often ignored or only remembered for the battle of New Orleans unless you are a Canadian

especially the mounted Kentuckians and the Indians.

mounted kentuckians could be a very versatile set.

You could have a Colonel figure and use him in a diodrama of a fried chicken shop

I like Frank's list too, but I would still LOVE to see a full set of buckskin infantry (in brown not gray!) with mostly coonskin caps & maybe a few tri-corns for Colonial US period! I'm still a BIG fan of John Wayne's "The Fighting Kentuckian!" I just love the look of all those buckskin clad troops! Just so different from any other militia styles! Throw in some period indians to fight them & we got a party!

Everybody keeps talking Alamo, we could really use some artillery & mounted men for the Texans!

Yes, US Dragoons and Rifle Regiments please!

They certainly look as if they'd paint up well.

One good thing about Strelets' figures, with their deep cut detail, is they dip very well.

(dipping of course is a method of giving figures shades & highlights with a minimum of effort: anyone can be a good painter with the dipping method).

I waS HOPING FOR THEM IN BLUE!

I'm okay with militia in grey. I do hope regular US infantry is in blue though.

Reminds me of the Battle of Chippewa, fought on July 5, 1814. There was not enough blue cloth for the American Army of General Winfield Scott to be clothed in (their old uniforms were worn out). Much to the chagrin of the regulars, they could only get uniforms in grey, the color of militia!! (my Airfix Nappy British Infantry and Revell Nappy British Infantry come in grey sometimes, so I use them for Americans, and sometimes you can find Airfix Nappy British Infantry in red and Revell Nappy British Infantry in orange, they are British regulars).

British Major General Phineas Riall saw Scott's grey-clad army advancing and thought they were militia (because of the grey uniforms) and anticipated an easy victory. He was shocked when the Americans took what he threw at them and continued to advance. He was said to exclaim, "Those are regulars, by God!"

The Scott's Americans won that day.

Ever since The American Milita 1812 set's masters first appeared there has been much talk and many supporters of using it for The Alamo. I know I am.

Once Strelets gets closer to finishing it's American sets for the 1812 theme, I hope they will consider making a Big Box titled "Alamo Defenders." The contents should include all the Militias, Kentuckians (including Mounted Riflemen), etc. and then finished off with the traditional Dedicated Set of Famous Personalities (Crocket, Bowie etc.) other volunteers plus Susanna Dickinson and the Slaves who were allowed to live.

Just by designing the one dedicated Alamo Defenders (Personalities) Set, and using the existing 1812 sets, I'd be hopeful the idea would give a healthy return on investment.

As much as the existing Alamo personalities box has a place in my heart, this would be the perfect opportunity to for serious Alamo Collectors to build up a complete and matching Defenders Army with the latest and most stunning figurines ever made.

And if you did, I'd vote you keep these sets in the current Gray Color you are using.

The problem with "personality" sets is that no one needs more than one of them, as opposed to more general infantry or cavalry sets, which are usually required in multiples and therefore better business.

Hi Ian, I wrote you a response, but the system won't let me post it. I've got to go out of town today, so I'll try reposting this evening. Have a super day! GC

This is true but the manufacturer who makes a complete range (ie ALL the infantry, artillery, cavalry & logistics needed for wargaming) will be able to sell enough figure sets to cover a financial loss on the command sets.It should be kept in mind that including command will encourage people to buy into the whole range.

Alternately, the manufacturer charges more for command sets. Metal companies often do this & I could stand paying more for needed command figures in plastic too.

HaT often includes non-command figures in its command sets so they have wider appeal or the set covers several armies (CF their Napoleonic mounted Command set).

Hi Ian,

The 3 unique sprews that include famous personalities, also include many new unique but generic officer, casualty, action, etc. poses. There were only 200 Alamo Defenders so I'd suggest that the Big Box would be the centerpiece of the collection, supplemented by already produced 1812 Militias. And all the Big Box sprews could be made in Gray Color just like the 1812 Militia making everyone happy.

Have a super weekend!

I think Strelets has done individual personalities best! ONE set of just personalities each with just one figure per pose! Might be a little hard to do for the Alamo but figure; Travis, Bowie, Crockett, Bonham & Dickinson. then add Houston, Fannin & Seguin. That's 8! Maybe add Austin &/or mounted versions of Houston, Bonham, Crockett & Seguin along with some casualties & that should make a solid personality set for Alamo & TWI!

or to fill it out, call it Alamo personalities and add Santa Anna and some Mexican generals. But then the color of the sprue becaomes an issue. I guess personalities could be a different color, like the old Marx playsets (One side in blue, one side in red, the personalities in cream). Personally I never liked that. What do you think?

Only for some.

If Strelets wanted to do the Alamo, & make a profit in their endeavours, they should consider several sets of Mexicans: artillery, cavalry, infantry in various uniforms, assaulting infantry sets (eg with ladders).

Mexicans are where the profit is. And people will be more inclined to buy Mexican sets if there's 1/2 sets of defenders (1 mini set might be personalities)so you have a complete range for the conflict. Later, Strelets could create other Texan sets for later battles if the initial goals meet expectations.

As a wargamer, I build armies on a figure scale. EG my Napoloeonics are 1:50, my Zulus are 1:10.

One of the appeals of the Alamo is you could actually do it 1:1.

As a side note, does anyone think The Sword & the Flame rules would work with an Alamo game?

Many good points above, however, I still feel a Command set first is the bait on the hook and the way to go for the Alamo theme. And I had the same thought as Arlin - Have both Alamo Defenders & Santa Anna's Generals in the same set - 1 sprew of each. The 3rd sprew always is of the accompanying horses. We should get more 1812 militia and frontiersmen for the War of 1812 anyway.

I'd hope for the Defenders in Dark Gray and Mexicans in Blue, or both just in Dark Gray.