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Good call Graham!
It aint Rocket Science you know
Wrong German war, but I can live with that!
at the moment i detect:
as for nazi
10 early war infantry sets
9 late war infantry sets
8 winter infantry sets
7 afrika korps sets
4 panzergrenadiers / elite troops sets
7 paratroopers sets
2 mountain troops sets
2 volkssturm sets
15 axis allied sets (italians, romanians etc.)
as for soviets
9 infantry sets
8 winter infantry sets
2 cavalry sets
2 partisans sets
1 winter partisans set
as for british
10 infantry sets
4 paratroopers sets
4 8th army sets
3 commandos sets
5 anzac sets
as for united states
9 infantry sets (including pegasus rangers and esci french)
5 paratroopers sets
4 usmc sets
3 winter infantry sets
6 japan infantry sets
(do not count ugly or historically incorrect sets like odemars & co. junk, valiant "bigheads", atlantic indian brigade, airfix gurkhas, do not count artillery, aa, at, bicycles, motorcycles, mounted infantry, pilots, tank crews, just heavy weapons sets, wagons etc., consider zvezda mini sets as just one infantry set)
at first sight napoleonic french appears to be more than ww2 nazi...?
Imperial Romans are probably a candidate. If you include Auxiliaries, Praetorians and cavalry, even more so. If you add in republican and christen/Late Imperial, the Romans may well win the numbers game.
Just because you do not like sets you cannot simply ignore them when putting forward an argument that there are not excessive third Reich products. Personally, I detest the way certain companies pump out endless SS sets and similar ilk but it does not mean I can say they do not exist!
Not sure where you set the total figure of only 49 Nazi sets in existence! Caesar alone produce 7 infantry, 4 panzer grenadiers and 3 combat teams. I have not even looked for the likes of their SS sets. This compares to your figures 26 British sets. Suggest you have a look at PSR lists which although duplicate several sets actually shows the sets.
If naziphiles want to buy such sets so be it but its a pity the leading manufactures cannot follow Strelet's example produce more realistic
products of this brutal state like the police battalions and the Stalingrad set.
When it comes to WWII, I think the most obviously overdone subjects are "british" infantry, 8th army, paras & commandos.
Compared to the small role they played during this epic & global conflict, there's way too many sets in 1/72 wasted on this negligible ally.
This also applies to "british" infantry of the napoleonic period. When compared to the marginal numbers of troops "britain" deployed, it's easy to see that this a massively overdone subject as well.
this set is still missing!
"large numbers of indigènes (French Algerian Tirailleurs as well as Tunisian or Moroccan Goumiers) have been recruited into the French First Army of the Free French Forces", bir kaheim french soldiers and even azad hind forces in south france! what they looked like?
If you include Atlantic sets, one gets Hitler and the SS or what is in effect a set of SA storm troopers. These are technically civilians and unarmed and perhaps should be classified with the gangster and police sets from redox, which are of the same time period, civilians but armed.
The same old boring subject...LOOSERS!
GERMANS EARLY WAR (34): Infantry (8) - Fallschirmjager (3) - Gebirsjager (2) - Elite Troops (1) - Sturmpioniere (1) - Mounted Infantry (1) - Bicyclists (1) - Machine Gun Teams (1) - Mortar Teams (2) - PaK 3,7cm (2) - FlaK 2cm (2) - FlaK 88mm (1) - Infantry Gun 7,5cm (2) - Artillery 10,5cm (3) - Cavalry (1) - Motorcycles (3)
GERMANS WINTER WAR (14): Infantry (9) - Machine Gun Teams (1) - Mortar Teams (1) - PaK 40 (1) - PaK 7,62cm (1) - Nebelwerfer (1)
GERMAN AFRIKA KORPS (10): Infantry (7) - PaK 3,7cm (1) - FlaK 88mm (1) - Motorcycles (1)
GERMANS LATE WAR (36): Infantry (11) - Fallschirmjager (5) - Gebirsjager (1) - Panzergrenadiers (2) - Waffen SS (2) - Sturmpioniere (2) - Volkssturm (2) - Police (1) - Machine Gun Teams (1) - Heavy Weapons (1) - Mortar Teams (2) - AT Teams (1) - PaK 38 (1) - PaK 40 (2) - Infantry Gun 7,5cm (2)
RUSSIANS (32): Infantry (10) - Naval Infantry (2) - Paratroopers (1) - Engineers (1) - Militia (2) - Machine Gun Teams (1) - Heavy Weapons (1) - Mortar Teams (1) - AT Teams (1) - AT Gun 45mm (2) - AT Gun ZIS 2/3 (1) - AA Machine Gun Teams (2) - AA Gun 37mm (1) - AA Gun 85mm (1) - Infantry Gun 76mm (1) - Artillery 122mm (1) - Cavalry (2) - Cossacks (1)
RUSSIANS WINTER WAR (15): Infantry (8) - Polish Infantry (1) - Partisans (1) - Support Weapons (1) - Mortar Teams (2) - AT Teams (1) - AT Gun ZIS 3 (1)
BRITISH (32): Infantry (10) - Commonwealth Infantry (4) - Paratroopers (3) - Commandos (3) - Machine Gun Teams (2) - Mortar Teams (2) - AT Teams (1) - AT Gun 2pdr (1) - AT Gun 6pdr (2) - AA Gun Bofors 40mm (2) - Paratroopers Pack Howitzer 75mm (1) - Artillery 25 pdr (1)
BRITISH 8TH ARMY (5): Infantry (4) - Artillery 25pdr (1)
U.S. EUROPE (19): Infantry (9) - Rangers (1) - Paratroopers (5) - Mountain Troops (1) - Heavy Weapons (1) - AT Teams (1) - Mountain Gun 75mm (1)
U.S. PACIFIC (4): Marines (4)
ITALIANS EUROPE (8): Infantry (2) - Support Group (1) - Mountain Troops (1) - X Mas (1) - Paratroopers (1) - AA Gun 90/53 (1) - Cavalry (1)
ITALIANS AFRICA (5): Infantry (2) - Paratroopers (1) - Paratroopers Light Artillery (1) - Artillery 149/40 (1)
JAPANESE (8): Infantry (6) - Artillery 70mm (1) - Mountain Gun 75mm (1)
FRENCH (3), ROMANIANS (2), FINNISH (2), POLISH (1), HUNGARIANS (1)
French 1798-1807 (11) - Infantry (7) - Artillery (2) - Cavalry (2)
French 1808-1813 (29+1) - Infantry (11+1) - Artillery (1) - Cavalry (17)
French 1814-1815 (25+1) - Infantry (12+1) - Artillery (4) - Cavalry (9)
British "Egyptian Campaign" (4) - Infantry (2) - Artillery (1) - Cavalry (1)
British "Peninsular War" (7+1) - Infantry (6) - Cavalry (1+1)
British "Waterloo" (23+1) - Infantry (11+1) - Artillery (5) - Cavalry (7)
Prussians 1806 (9) - Infantry (5) - Artillery (1) - Cavalry (3)
Prussians 1807-1815 (16+1) - Infantry (9+1) - Artillery (1) - Cavalry (6)
Russians 1805 (3) - Infantry (2) - Cavalry (1)
Russians "Russian Campaign" (18+1) - Infantry (5+1) - Artillery (3) - Cavalry (10)
Austrians (10) - Infantry (7) - Artillery (1) - Cavalry (2)
Netherlands (7) - Infantry (5) - Artillery (1) - Cavalry (1)
Polish (5) - Infantry (3) - Cavalry (2)
Bavarians (4) - Infantry (2) - Artillery (1) - Cavalry (1)
Brunswick (3), Saxons (3), Swedish (3), Wurttemberg (3), Spanish (2+3), Portuguese (1)
TOTAL 48 "USABLE" WW2 GERMAN INFANTRY SETS
TOTAL 32 "USABLE" NAPOLEONIC FRENCH INFANTRY SETS (+28 CAVALRY +7 ARTILLERY)
So What? LOSER I´m happy and you don´t,I repeat LOSER!
ive bought a bunch of hat napoleonic french sets in grey,blue and tan.might want to double that french list if colors are a criteria now.
of course im not sure if light grey and lighter grey for germans would count.
The listing doesnt include the Type1 HO/OO Airfix sets (2) either though it does include other nominally HO/OO sets such as Atlantic, if other sets were also included.... Preiser 1/72 has already been mentioned with 14-15? Infantry sets, and of course currently not counted but still "Plastic" the special painted sets from Kaiser err... Caesar....I'm sure there are plenty of others probarbly long forgotten....
The truth is the total is way greater then the WW2 listing of PSR allows for or shows as far as nominally 1/72 Plastic figures go.... did Baravelli produce any German Soldiers does anyone know? and what about Japanese Manufacturers or Resin(Plastic, according to PSR and indeed it is) firms such as Milicast etc?
Anyhow if you just want to include only 1/72 soft plastic(PP PE etc) sets as designed then only sets produced from the period of the original Esci production would actually count, as Atlantic and Airfix were not originally marketed for 1/72 specifically but 1/87-1/76(HO/OO) this equally applies to the other ranges Napoleonic French and Romans etc, but probably the balance wouldn't change much overall
Have a good Day
if i multiply all the french sets in the different colors they come in,doesnt excel say they come close.
then i say again, the french win.
vive la france!
46 sets that can come in light blue,medium blue,dark blue,tan,grey, and silver.en viola,the permutations boggle the mind.
vive la emperour!
The Mighty 1000-Year Reich (12 years and 3 months) sets also come in different colours. 123 multiplied by "light blue,medium blue,dark blue,tan,grey, and silver" is larger than 46 multiplied by "light blue,medium blue,dark blue,tan,grey, and silver".
Even if the WW2 "Germans" only came in 3 different colours, a whole half of what you claim for your nappies, they would still outnumber the Nappie French (or "french" as you call them), 369 versus your 276.
as much as id like to have germans in more than 1 color,im afraid there isnt many sets that come in 2 different colors.the reprints from esci to italeri come to mind with 2,but thats about it.it wasnt known as a colorful uniform period i guess.
so vive la france!