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The Native Indian armies involved in the conflict. The British and probably the Americans too, can be covered with existing Napoleonic sets.
A few suggestions
1. Unique US militia uniforms
Kentucky Mounted Militia in buckskin and tall hats. Mounted figures
Kentucky Militia on foot in buckskin and tall hats.
2. Regular US troops in buckskin coats.
3. Unique Canadian militia uniforms
especially the Canadian Voltigeurs.
4. US and British dragoons/light cavalry
5. Lafitte's pirates for New Orleans
6. Soldiers using snow shoes and skis
7. Naval and Royal Marine shore parties
8. Tecumsuh and his confederation of British allied indian tribes
9. A muletrain
10. some rafts for troops and supplies
Of course, having lived in Fort Wayne, the earlier (1790's) Anthony Wayne's Legion (officers, infantry, cavalry and artillery) would also make a neat offering.
Sure & he can cover WW2 Germans with the 9 Zillion sets we have now too!
so strelets,is this a period your thinking about getting into?
These would be my choices as they aren't simple repaints/minor conversions:
1) US Riflemen in fringed hunting frocks and both shako and brimmed hat - can be used for regulars in summer dress, Rangers or various state militia:
2) Tecumseh & the Shawnee Tribes
3) US Light Dragoons
4) Canadian Militia: Voltiguers, Chasseurs and Voyageurs
As long as it is not just the Battle of New Orleans as it appears in so many revisionist histories why not! Its time that the invasion of Canada by the Americans is made available to a wider audience.
Do not forget the British marines and the Royal navy amphibious role in that war especially the burning a certain building in Washington (well at least they left the US marine barracks alone as a mark of professional courtesy!)
Very much interested - would be good marketing considering we are in the midst of the 200th anniversary of that conflict with numerous commemoration events in both Canada and the US.
Looking around at what is already available and other people comments I would agree with additional suggestions.
Obviously much of the British combatants are already available in Napoleonic lines and this might include HaT's "British Marines & Sailors"
However with gaiters and queues the marines have a bit of a pre-1808/full address appearance so a new set with trousers would be great. Also I think I heard the HaT set has become difficult to obtain(?)
Of course Strelets existing British Line Infantry in Egypt might fit the bill...
For Tecumsehs' warriors there is possibly already the fine set of Italeri AWI Indians - any thoughts on suitability for 1812-15?
Imex's Lewis & Clark set looks useful for rafts, boats, supplies, etc.
What assortment of clothing would Lafitte's pirates be wearing? Anything suitable already available?
given that strelets has a style all its own,maybe their british napoleonic troops could do.but anything else should be i would think fair game.
would all be awesome
Hi. You can use existing sets of British troops for both USA and British / Canadian regulars.
However the Kentuckian mounted (and dismounted) infantry and native Americans (more clothed then in earlier wars)are missing and would make good competing sets for warfare in the Ohio Valley from AWI to 1815.
Throw in a set for the American Legion and you can do the NW wars as well.
Would certainly welcome the range whatever you put in it
This a great idea but I think many people will only buy if the sculpting is up to the new standards shown on some recent masters. Someone said the British marines have a similar uniform to the line infantry in Egypt but that set was terrible just like the dismounted Mongols and original Dacians. Don't bother if you are going to produce waste plastic like that.
further thought, if your a purist look away.
You could produce two sets to cover the bulk of infantry if you want a Strelets range as opposed to just plugging gaps:
one early war regular infantry (with stovepipe shako) which would cover USA regulars, British and Canadians by use of paint job
one later war regular infantry (with Belgic shako) which would cover as above, likewise via differing paint jobs.
Call one British / Canadian and one USA for marketing purposes and perhaps include more officers and standard bearers then normal.
then add your box of American militia (Kentuckians on foot and horse)and box of native Americans and your away
The Egypt Campaign British Light Dragons would do for the few light cavalry present on British side.
Huzzah! About time! In my opinion, you should start with the Americans as there is nothing in that line!
US Regular Infantry, Dragoons & Artillery
Various US Militia: New Orleans citizens, Buckskin infantry, a few uniformed units (this will probably take a few regular or up to 5 mini sets!)
Native Americans (Allies & Enemies!)
Miltia cavalry & artillery
Jean Lafitte's pirates(especially gunners!)
Then you can move on to the British, many of which we already have!
So the first set is apparently going to be "American Militia in Winter Dress"
That's an excellent choice!
Awesome looking masters for the US militia! Strangely enough the fringed hunting frock seems to have been *summer* dress for many units such as Rifle Regiments.
One thing I am interested to know - are there many Canadian collectors/gamers here? Because it seems that out of everybody involved in this conflict it is the Canadians that saw this as a defining moment in their history as a future nation. Without the defeat of the U.S. invasions Canada would not exist as a separate country in years to come.
For the USA, Britain and the native tribes (include France on the periphery) this is almost a forgotten conflict because nobody can agree exactly what the outcome was!!! ;) Makes it very interesting as a bicentennial subject!
Yes, one of the classic examples is the film Master And Commander in which the antagonist is a French ship in 1805. In the main Patrick O'Brian book it is based on (The Far Side Of The World) the enemy is the "USS Norfolk" in 1813. The producers quite openly stated they couldn't get funding for a movie where the US are the foe.
Agreed about that Bernard Cornwell book but I think even he bottled it considering he sent Sharpe to just about every corner of the world except North America during the conflict.
In anticipation of this range, if there are some who want a fun background to this odd conflict from a particular US perspective:
M106 - US Rangers 1812
M107 - Tecumseh 1812
Wow, cool stuff! Especially the Tecumseh set. The Rangers set is a little more obscure and strange though welcome too. Personally speaking, some US Dragoons, Regular riflemen, round-jacket infantry (Scott's Brigade), Canadian Voltigeurs and British Marines would have been preferable however.
Looking at the Olivier Mille uniform site the Rangers seem to have similar dress to the "winter" militia already on the way. I guess they may carry some weight because of links with the earlier British "Rogers' Rangers" and modern US Rangers...
Just trying to keep the War of 1812 requests in one place rather than starting multiple threads on the same subject ;) It struck me another uniform type is missing - the only British Highland unit that served in the war was the 93rd Foot (Sutherland Highlanders) who wore tartan trews and undress bonnet (similar to a tam o'shanter) rather than the kilt and feather bonnet:
However a few Canadian-Scottish militia units also adopted the same style of dress so perhaps a good subject as it isn't covered by the existing Napoleonic sets:
(Also it must be said, many of the existing Scottish Napoleonic sets are pretty bad with tartan schoolgirl mini-kilts! ;) )