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Re: Nice Guns......

dan76
Sorry, but did they fell into the Paint Pot?
I said they were painted,I didnt say they were well painted but progress at last ,its good news and not to be knocked.

Re: Nice Guns......

Alan Buckingham
dan76
Sorry, but did they fell into the Paint Pot?
I said they were painted,I didnt say they were well painted but progress at last ,its good news and not to be knocked.


Yes, youre right! Every progress is welcome!
I for myselfe cant wait for the Tanks.

Re: Nice Guns......

Alan Buckingham
The latest updates show painted 8in guns
And very nice they look too. I don't care how well they are painted - at least it shows off more detail than we could see previously.

I've been looking forward to these guns - in fact all of the Strelets Arms sets. I've held off placing orders for other 'toys' (RPM's new French 155mm, for example) so that I can combine postage with these new Strelets guns. Not long to wait now.

Colour me happy!

Re: Nice Guns......

Have to agree, that as they are, they ain't pretty. But PDA says they do show more detail and they show a lot of promise. I want.

Has Strelets noticed the box art...

for A004 6 Inch Mk XIX Cannon has a picture of an interwar (not WWI and not quite WWII) US Marine on the right?

WWI guns

Arlin
I think this was discussed a while ago - early stage of gestation whenever that was. It is a Mk XIX 6 inch gun though but they look like Matador wheels.

Dan 76 and others
I agree about the paint job and the glue pot as well. The 8 inch(6 inch surely) gun Mk VII pics (blackened) in the figures section look better and make the moulding look crisper. This pic below shows the normal field arrangement with large wheel scotches, a pit for the trail ( I presume the bar for the limber would be left off) and a loading platform


From this pic you can see the "traction engine" wheels are too narrow and many other differences.

The Airfix tribute forum has a scratch built one and project in the the scratch build section:

http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/ftopic19790-0.php

also reference to the plan by Ken Musgrave at the Landships Forum

There is also the 8 inch howitzer Mk V scratch built by the same chap

http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/ftopic19790-0.php

The Mk V was a converted Mk II so quite similar.Both of these sets of pics give some idea of the size of these guns when next to figures or a tank.

I made comments when I saw the masters and nothing much has changed and this year has been a steep learning curve for me as to what some people accept as reasonably accurate models. Enough said.
I just hope the figures will be released separately especially the WWII ones.

Material for the guns?
polystyrene? polyethylene? or other?

Price?


David

Re: WWI guns addenda

Please note if you follow the links for the 8" Howitzer Mk V you will see it is a kit made by IT models and built by B4en but not scratch built by him. Typing error on my part.

Matador models also do similar guns (GWA07)in white metal and 1/76th scale at £18.95 each. Without the price and material used it is hard to make a comparison with the Strelets ones.


David

Re: WWI guns addenda

David O'Brien
Please note if you follow the links for the 8" Howitzer Mk V you will see it is a kit made by IT models and built by B4en but not scratch built by him. Typing error on my part.

Matador models also do similar guns (GWA07)in white metal and 1/76th scale at £18.95 each. Without the price and material used it is hard to make a comparison with the Strelets ones.


David
Comparison : well you could make a start by saying Strelets are in the right scale, Strelets guns come with a full gun crew, strelets are in our prefered material,plastic, strelets are very good value for money, you could get two or three with all the other advantages for the price of one of those expensive metal ones. Not so hard to make a comparison after all David Strelets have invested time and money making these guns and I know its not just me thats eager to buy them,I have waited 40yrs plus for someone to make these,if you want to wait another forty in the hope that someone will do it better thats your call,but for me Strelets please let us have them asap and thank you for making them.

Re: WWI Guns

Alan Buckingham
...if you want to wait another forty in the hope that someone will do it better thats your call, but for me Strelets please let us have them asap and thank you for making them.
Quite agree.

There has been next to nobody making British stuff, so waiting for a "perfect" kit seems, well, pointless. I'll take these and detail them, and be very, very grateful. Maybe Part or Extratech or any of the other companies will bring out a detailing kit.

I hope they are very good sellers to give Strelets the inclination and resources to make the other kits in the Strelets Arms range, and maybe even consider adding a Tank Mark V and a Tchanka to the line up.

Thank you Strelets

Re: WWI Guns

PDA & Alan Buckingham

I haven't said I am not going to buy them or I am prepared to wait 40 years(?)etc. The clue to this is in my post.

Key factors to me as yet unanswered are (authenticity- answered)

1. price

and

2. material used in the guns.

Alan- just saying they are plastic misses the point entirely. If the guns are in polyethylene - absolutely no sale but good quality polystyrene - possible sale as far as I am concerned. Others may differ of course. Strelets may be able to answer this question better than you. I presume you know as little about the material to be used as I do or do you get free samples from Strelets?

Both
Perfect kit is your term not mine. There is no such thing all are compromises. I have a huge collection amassed over 50 years, not just plastic figures but diecasts and white metal models as well and most are far from perfect. I have actually noticed that; funnily enough. Capturing the essence of the original is important to me so reasonably correct proportions and fidelity to scale plans where available helps to create that measure of authenticity but my cut off point may be considerably higher than yours but lower than quite a few modellers.

I have hundreds of Strelets figure sets and am well aware they represent good value for money and have not been subject to price hikes. The price asked for these guns is an important factor especially if I am going to convert and super detail them ie discard a lot of the kit but not the figures of course.

The self evident plus factors like having a fairly large crew, being 1/72nd scale, polystyrene plastic easier to work with, etc are not wasted on me - why should they be? The balance could be that, with the additional info of price and the specific material used, these may easily be worth a shot. If you look at the Matador models examples which I believe were mastered quite some time ago, the conclusion may be these Strelets guns look better (ie more authentic) in some respects and not others. They may also be better when checked against Ken Musgrave's plans or against photos of the real guns. I offered no opinion hence "Without the price and material used it is hard to make a comparison with the Strelets ones."

I leave it to people to draw their own conclusions.

HaT's WWI artillery sets in polystyrene have, to my mind, set a benchmark and of course they are not perfect (what is?). Material used, price, authenticity and so on means this is what I am looking for and all the boxes are ticked on my check list. Hence my comments about price and material. The idea of issuing crews in separate sets and with alternative heads are other excellent ideas. Hence my comment. Strange that both of you who regularly contribute to the HaT forum couldn't see that was where I was coming from.

I hope these sell well for Strelets. If they are the right product at the right price they will. Time will be the judge of that.


David

Re: WWI Guns

Very well said, and no complaints from me. Re Hats guns,well they have no bigger fan than I ,but remember the QF4.5 etc were not hats first attempt,they have learnt over time and have developed the pruduct to where they are now, this is strelets first go,lets hope they learn and develope too,we can do our bit by buying the pruduct and giving constructive feedback,a winning line gets backed a loser does not,so I hope they sell loads and do more

Re: WWI Guns

Alan

Just to say they are very big guns so quite an adventurous start.
I notice that no date has been given for their release so (excuse the bad pun ) we may be jumping the gun. The figure sprues seem to have been around for a long time but no gun sprue yet.

David

Re: WWI Guns

Although Strelets have said nothing , my assumption was this month with the August releases,now that may well just be very wishful thinking on my part.But that was my reading of why the photos were put up now and the paint job may have been rushed, I am itching to get my brush on that howitzer so Strelets if its not soon and you would like one painted up to look the part it would be my pleasure to do so.

Re: WWI Guns Price

Hannants have them priced at £7.99 each in the future release section other items are TBA so that would suggest to me that they will be £7.99 and they have a release date in the not to distant future. fingers crossed.

Re: WWI Guns Price

Alan Buckingham
... a release date in the not to distant future. fingers crossed.
Somewhere on this page Strelets have stated August as the release date.