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Re: tavern set

The L-shaped object seems to be a counter, seen from above and looks completely right. The usual Roman fast food restaurant just was a rectangular room, like the shops in the same city building. Open towards the street. The bartender or waitress at the L-counter could both attend the people entering the tavern and the ones staying on the street side. Many passers-by would stop for a sip, small dish or some gossip. Somewhat similar to a modern sidewalk café or ‘whatsoever to go’ shop.

Right, the tunic is not long enough for a woman. But there’s more information about the dress code of the upper class or average women. Lower classes and slaves might have worn what was available. For sure that waitress did’t work in a gourmet temple…

Re: tavern set

i guess PSR will exploit that toga issue unless its that sort of a roman bar /

surprised that toga was not caught, looks more like 1960's hollywood mini based design/ maybe it is soon enough to alter mold ?

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Right again, that tunic looks Hollywood style. And the filmmaker’s Roman dress code was and mostly is pure fantasy, but became a recognizable standard for the audience. Like the infamous leather cuirasses. Even newer TV productions like HBO’s ‘Rome’ or “Spartacus’ are not very realistic. Unfortunately, the working dress of lower class people isn’t much depicted in reliefs, wall paintings or pottery – or at least rarely published. Great resin samples of Roman civilians in 1/72 are made by Nikolai (some reviews at PSR). Perfectly sculpted anatomy and dress and a lot of life like poses. Linear-b should know them, too. But I also like the Strelets Roman civilians, because of their personality. They ‘act’ like living ordinary people. Maybe the kind of ‘real life’ you would see in HBO’s ‘Rome’.

BTW: Many simple taverns were at the floor level of a Roman ‘insula’, the ancient skyscrapers, built up to seven floors and often collapsing due to poor and cheap building methods. Small rents and at the upper floor levels the home of thousands of rather poor people. In today’s view, ‘tavern’ might mislead to the picture of a romantic restaurant. Also common but maybe more likely at the better quarters or the countryside. Rome herself was a mega-city, and many quarters perhaps comparable to modern slums, but far away from being a red-light district.

Unfortunately, updating the mould at this stage is not very likely. Even with masters made, the point of no return seems to be crossed. (Remember the Caesarian legionaries equipped with the very questionable apron, more common to a later period? They now repeat that issue set by set.

Strelets should publish the design sketches first (like HAT) to get feedback in time.

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Waitress not wearing man toga. Nobody in set wearing man toga. Waitress wearing tunic. Not normal for woman of gentry, but possible maybe for slave or servant woman.

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All the Roman women I have met on my time travels didn't wear the mini. Except perhaps the Pompeian notable Erotica. Sadly this bloke kept getting in the foreground of the pic of some other Pompeians.


Seriously, I have met and talked to re-enactors and they are 100% sure most women wore the stola. Slaves and servants stola would have been made of inferior material and coarsely dyed. They may have hitched them up in the kitchen but certainly not when serving. Children dressed in a costume very similar to a shorted version of the tunic.

This Carthaginian mosaic may have been the inspiration for the figure:


Costume differed slightly throughout the Empire depending on the influences of climate and indigenous fashions.

Alterations to Strelets figures at this stage - crossing the Rubicon springs to mind or as Caesar reputedly said alea iacta est or( ALEA IACTA EST for the pedants)is also appropriate for wargamers.

David

Re: tavern set

Right, HFTGH wrote 'toga' but surely was thinking of a simple tunic. But such a civilian tunic should be longer, erspecially for women. Roman soldiers preferred to wear their tunic short and it was a common disciplinary punishment to remove their belts for a while. Without belt support, their tunics would be lowered and look 'civilian style'(Imagine their comrades laughing at them all the time...)

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Tunic length was very important in Roman society,similar to shoe size in Egypt. The size and shape of the tunic was a key indicator to social status. Of course fashions changed, as with sport shorts, and different lengths meant different things at different times. There is an excellent book on the subject by Heinz Kranker

Re: tavern set

Well, as for myself concerning sets like this I'm looking for ACCSESORIES to use within the walls of my MILE FORTS or MARCHING FORTS. I'd like to see Figures separate from Benches, Stools, Counters, etc.

I've done Head-Swops with the Stretcher-Bearers and the walking Slave, now Prisoner are Cool Conversions.

This set will definately find it's place in my collection, but as Conversions. I'm a Toy Soldier Collector so Civilian Life takes 2nd place!

I'm looking forward to this set. Thanks S*R and Thank You Linear for your Sponsorship!

Happy Collecting - GarrisonClay

cheap but effective

GO TO EBAY AND SEARCH FOR HO TILE faller
toys and hobbies / railroad

A TERRACOTTA TILE SHEET IS CHEAP. Cut a length and place on an angle and use as a lean to tmporary structure on teh inner side of fort

use square type matches as support beans perpendicular and horizontals,

with same tile you can make dovecote pigsty well
stable gazebo

can also place 2 over your exisiting fort wall at 45 degree angle ^ ....