As I said Dan I agree with most of what you have said a cheap way to increase power would be great I have my concerns that maybe some sports 1600's may have already been re mapped, by biggest concern is that clubmans is losing it's roots the way things are going for some of us it is no longer affordable to remain competitive yes I know I need to be coming to see you for some lessons and if we can arrange it I will do trust me ,but even that will not be enough in my opinion some people are spending far to much money on cars to be competing in an amateur club class if they were really any good they would move up the scale we had it when competing horses some people spending in excess of £50,000 to compete against us on a horse that cost £750.00 we still won so then they spent even more we still won and then it got bitchy we moved on from that level and upped our game and that is what the wannabes should be doing not just spending thousands more to be pot hunters,I work hard to try and earn enough to enjoy racing Dan, pardon the pun no rich Daddy just sweat blood and tears the college education I done was paid for by me two years hard work before I went and then boxing in Gypsy camps no gloves to fund my way through when you have ear to it the way I have you view life a bit different Dan I like you mate but we have come from different worlds and it is a great pity more in clubmans have had to do it the. hard way. Alex Champkin great guy fab engineering talent but as said why waste it he is better than clubmans so again as said move on and upwards let's see how good he really is trust me mate I was good very good in fact in the rings I was in but guess what up the game and their is always someone better in fact much better and I think that is what the wannabes are afraid of they would be nobody's there ,bet they don't prove me wrong!!! But I really dohope that someday they do.