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Is my boat over-propped?

Hi my boat is 37 foot, cruiser strern, approx 10 tonne. Beta 28hp engine, 2009, name Nutcracker II a genuine piper boat as I have checked with Piper staff who were very helpful. The prop is 16x9 as stated in oringinal owners handbook. Upto say 1100 revs boat responds well and speed increases as revs increase. At about 1109 revs its doing 2.9 mph. If I try to go above 1100 revs the speed does not increase much at all and engine sounds as though it doing much more work. I have checked with beta and they say prop for this boat may be better suited to a 15x8 or 15x9. Is it possible for Dot to read this and ask David what he thinks please. Thank you John

Re: Is my boat over-propped?

John
What was the depth of water where you conducted your 'speed trial'. It is quite possible that the increase in revs may have resulted in 'dragging' the stern deeper in the water and therefore friction between the bottom of the boat and the canal bed could have come into play.

Re: Is my boat over-propped?

Hi,

David says how many revs do you get when you open up the engine fully, in gear?

Re: Is my boat over-propped?

I tried to increase engine revs fully as suggested by David and Dot but as I moved throttle forward to above 1300 very little increase in revs if any and no boat speed increase but engine clearly working much much harder. Was propably at about 3/4 throttle but did not push it further as did not want to damage engine or gearbox. This was done on Trent and Mersey canal between Willington and Findern. Also spoke again with Piper staff and they said my boat was actually fitted with a 17 x 10 in their notes. Having done much reading on matching engine HP and prop size it seems to me that in order to be able to cruise at 4 on canals and if u were to go on rivers say 6, the engine needs to be able to release its full HP range. The 28 HP beta engine I have has a max of 3600rpm. Also I'm concerned if I were to go on rivers I may not be able to cope with the river currents and loose control. Please note I'm a responsible boater and not looking for silly speeds that damage the canals. I just need to feel confident I'm in control of the boat. Thank you Dot and David and another for replying. Hope you can help further. John

Re: Is my boat over-propped?

David is a bit busy just now but I'll have a word with him and get back to you.

Re: Is my boat over-propped?

Thank you Dot. Look forward to hearing from you when David has time. John

Re: Is my boat over-propped?

You need to do this - on similar depth water open the engine fully up, it will be ok. Then let us know what revs you achieve.
Dot