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20th Helicopter Sq

As a mechanic with the 20th when they formed at Eglin AFB in Nov,'65, I am researching:
1. What were the tail#'s of the original 14 CH-3C's sent over to Tan Son Nhut in Dec,'65?
2. When was 676, "Black Maria" painted black?

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The Individual aircraft histories are filed at the AF Historical Research Agency, Maxwell AFB, AL and are also put on microfilms . I have copies of most of these films and from this source I can provide the following serial numbers.

JCH-3C 62-12579 assigned to 20th at Eglin on 19 Oct 1965 ; arrived at Tan Son Nhut 5 Dec 1965 (note that the document keeps on indicating this one as JCH- up to 10 Feb 67)
CH-3C 62-12582 assigned to 20th at Eglin on 19 Oct 1965 ; arrived at Tan Son Nhut 1 Dec 1965
CH-3C 63-9678 assigned to 20th at Eglin on 19 Oct 1965 ; arrived at Tan Son Nhut 1 Dec 1965
CH-3C 63-9681 assigned to 20th at Eglin on 19 Oct 1965 ; arrived at Tan Son Nhut 1 Dec 1965
CH-3C 63-9682 assigned to 20th at Eglin on 19 Oct 1965 ; arrived at Tan Son Nhut 1 Dec 1965
CH-3C 63-9689 assigned to 20th at Eglin on 19 Oct 1965 ; arrived at Tan Son Nhut 1 Dec 1965
CH-3C 64-14222 assigned to 20th at Eglin on 19 Oct 1965 ; arrived at Tan Son Nhut 1 Dec 1965
CH-3C 64-14236 assigned to 20th at Eglin on 2 Nov 1965 ; arrived at Tan Son Nhut 1 Dec 1965
CH-3C 64-14237 from Sikorsky/Bridgeport to Tan Son Nhut 13 Dec 1965
CH-3C 65-5690 from Sikorsky/Bridgeport to Tan Son Nhut 13 Dec 1965
CH-3C 65-5691 from Sikorsky/Bridgeport to Tan Son Nhut 12 Jan 1966
CH-3C 65-5692 from Sikorsky/Bridgeport to Tan Son Nhut 12 Jan 1966
CH-3C 65-5695 from Sikorsky/Bridgeport to Tan Son Nhut 13 Oct 1966

This makes only 8 from Eglin to TanSN such as you indicated. I cannot find the others (6)
The info does come from the official records however.

CH-3C 63-9676 4485 TW Eglin assigned as of 10 Mar 64 to 38 ARS at Nakhon Phanom 28 June 65
to Udorn 23 Dec 65 ; to Tan Son Nhut 14 Jan 66 ; to 20 HS at Udorn 5 Apr 66 ; to 14 ACW at udorn 10 Aug 67 ; to Don Muang for overhaul 9 Apr 68 - maybe the black paint was done during this overhaul. I have no information however.

CH-3C 63-9685 4485 TW Eglin as of 6 Jun 64 to 38 ARS at NKP on 28 Jun 65

Success with your research work.

Best wishes,
Johan Ragay
"USAF Rotorheads Message Board" H-43 Historian
and
www.h43-huskie.info

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Re: 20th Helicopter Sq

I was a pilot in the 20th during the period early December 1966 to late November 1967. When I arrived on station at Udorn around 1 December 1966, aircraft 676 was already painted flat black. The painting was done sometime prior to that, as was the upgrade of the engines and the redesignation as CH-3E on all of the aircraft. I was told that the engines were changed on station at Udorn. Apparently, that was considered to be of a routine nature.

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I'e got a couple of tail numbers 65-682 and 14721

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Re: 20th Helicopter Sq

Do you have any tail numbers of the first UH1F helicopters to be assigned to the 20th. in Viet Nam. I am interested in the 4 gunships.

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