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Christopher David



Apr 6, 2004 - 2:44AM
The DL Phenomenon

With the recent attention on the rise of H.I.V. related cases with Black Women, are Bisexual DL men the blame?
c-boone



Apr 6, 2004 - 10:02AM
Re: The DL Phenomenon

Thank you Chris for allowing yourself to get angry enought to say, "I am mad as h-ll, and I am not going to that this sh-t anymore!"

However, I do beleive thatless finger-pointing and laying the blame on others has got to end and more self- responsibility has got to take place.

You are right. Black Gay/Bisexual/DL/Men are now the scapegoat to a lot of the problems within the Black Community. It is easier to blame someone then to look at the "moot" in our on eyes!

Black Women have it hard, I agree! But so do black men, and to be black and male and gay? Pluueezzee! You might as well have a bulleye target on your back that says ," Hate me because I am a Black Gay/Bisexual/DL Man and I am the root of all of the Black Woman's/Family's problems!"

It is up to the individual to take some responsibility in their own lives and to protect themselves. However, because within the Black community, HIV is still considered a disease that is contractable if you are gay, many straight women are ignoring the risks and not practicing safer sex techniques.As you alluded to in your commentary, HIV is no respector of persons.

And while we are on the subject, why is it that the "DL phenomena" is just being limited to the Black Man? Why are there no other groups of people talking about DL men?

Lastly, yes Chris, when you look at it, it does look like it is an us vs them kind of thing and that this DL thing is just another strike against Black Gay/Bisexual/Same Gender Loving/? men and will become just another reason for the black community to turn it's backs to us and hate us!
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Mike (aka Prime)



Apr 11, 2004 - 7:42PM
Re: The DL Phenomenon

I'll say as I have probably a hundred or more times already, until we ALL, regardless of sexual orientation, identity, or whatever, start taking responsbility for our sexual health and holding our sexual partner accountable, blaming one or another does nothing to save our people from contracting HIV.

Unfortunately, this is the most difficult of messages to get our folks to buy into. Instead, we must always find a demon to lay the blame upon, and this time around, its Black Bisexual and "DL" males who will bear this curse for the time being.

I am so sick of hearing about men on the "DL" as if its something new. My parents tell me stories of men they knew who lived dual lives.

So while we sit around and point fingers at each other for who's to blame, our local and federal governments under the direction of the Christian Coalition, are slowly and methodically stripping away civils rights for targeted members of our society.

When will we wake up.

I am tired, and frustrated and its starting to tear me up inside to the point where I feel more rage and violence building up inside of me, which is in direct conflict my nature.

ok, I'll stop here....

Thanks for sharing your feelings on this Chris.
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Siante



Jul 28, 2004 - 4:57PM
Re: The DL Phenomenon

I'm one was not moved. It was nothing new to me at all. And you can't use that argument that bisexual men are/were spreading the gift around--not on me.

Some of are spreading it unknowingly. However, so are the str8. That alone should says something loud and clear: You don't konw what you're getting from anyone unless you get them tested at the drop to be sure.

And to the women who complain about how their man gave it to them (married or not, dl or not), what stopped them from getting a condom or demanding a condom. Just because I'm married to you or I'm in a long term relationship you has nothing to do with the fact that when I'm having sex with you and vice verss that you're not just having sex with me but sex with everybody else that I have had sex with and vice versa. If people took more stock in thinking of themselves in terms of their health and not think that they are/were invincible, this wouldn't even be an issue relative to the HIV/AIDS epidemic.

And speaking as an openly bisexual, I can say this: The more you try to come down on the gay/bi man in terms of the DL issue, the more you're going to force him to go further down. I don't have to cause I like what I like and will tell if asked.. So all you can do is know that it's out there and protect yourself, which should've been done by both in the first place. And until AFTER you get a test, either together or seperately and have seen your results then go raw. And even if you cheat PROTECT YASELF. Life is too short to mess around and get the gift. There is no cure for it.

That's just my take.
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